Someone just tried to scam me on eBay.

No.

 

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I was wondering if anyone knew how to create an album in CT? I see them on here, but can't find a path to create them.

 

Naw. Just let the Postal Inspectors SURPRISE HIM!

 

How can you pass on this? It's the ultra rare clashed die variety.

 

Looks like he sent YOU an empty box to me.

 

I just got all caught up on this thread. This moron has just served is idiotic rear-end to you on a silver platter. You have a message from him via eBay trying to claim the item never arrived, then it was listed by him. He lost the case of the item never arriving and then has the audacity to file for a return and actually returns an item that he had earlier claimed never arrived.

This would be a slam dunk case for a Postal Inspector if you were to go down that pathway (which I would). Even if no actual charges are brought, there is enough evidence to hopefully scare him straight. I would at least contact the USPS regarding attempted mail fraud and give them all of your evidence and then email this nimrod exactly what you have done.

Also, this guy is so dim, that if really wanted to contact you, all he needs to do is get your email address from PayPal. It does not matter if he is blocked on eBay, he has your contact information from the PayPal transaction.

 

FYI, when I had a guy try to use my images of a coin that he bought from me and listed on his store less than 13 minutes later with a markup of 300% mind you. It was re-listed after the first listing expired, still using my images without my permission. I got eBay involved and his retaliation was to return the coin claiming Not as Described.

Well I was forced to accept the return. Of course the guy waited until the last day to ship the return. Which prompted me to wait until the very last day to issue a refund, which of course was in the form of an e-check through PayPal. He then had to wait another week to actually get his money back.

You may not like being forced to give in, but you can at least make the punk wait as long as possible to get their money back.

 

If nothing else it will at least start a file on that person if he decides to make this a habit or has been doing this to other sellers.

 

I'm a little less than particular about using a sellers image when I purchase a coin from them. I'd never sell the image, but I would use it if I chose to sell the coin, since my own images are usually bad. So far I haven't sold anything myself anyway, so the situation is purely hypothetical.

But there is a fair use doctrine concerning the use of publicly available material, even copy written material, for certain projects. The basic restriction being that it cannot harm the economic opportunity of the person holding the material by being sold or using too much of it replacing demand for it, thus the excerpts from copy written material often used in classrooms or news stories.
I often use images from the internet to show die state information and variety identification markers. There has to be some fair use or the hobby would die.

All intellectual property should have a reasonable expiration date. Imagine if the first fire starter (through descendants) still had intellectual rights and sued anybody starting a fire? At some point, it has to enter public domain.

 

It's illegal to do that if you don't get their permission first. TrueViews you can use and PCGS has stated as much, but with other seller images the image is theirs until they say you can

 

I stop if asked.

I believe the intellectual property rights sticklers are choking progress. Reasonable use and term limits should be as meticulously guarded as the rights themselves to allow new ideas to enter public domain.

We should guard the exchange of ideas and promote free exchange as often as possible.

 

@Marshall may I ask how old you are?

 

We're talking about pictures here. Pattens holding back innovation making things more expensive ect are a different conversation and there are cases where there is some truth to it. But this is just a picture. Using someone else's picture is basically just wanting them to do the work for free. Very few if any would care if it was posted in a thread, most of the time that's free advertising. They do care though when you use it to try and make money off of

 

Use of any image for commercial gain without the copyright owners permission is a violation of copyright law. Period.

Using images (in a commercial venue) to educate (like showing die varieties, etc) is allowed, but even then it will be a fine legal line. I have been quiet as a seller lately, but when I was active, if someone was using one of my images, they had 24 hours to remove the image. If not, they were reported to ebay for copyright infringement. I never had someone keep my image up, and I would always get an I'm sorry.

And not to sound snarky, but your first sentence I quoted really is saying "I stop if I get caught". Just sayin'....

 

I get the issue. I don't want someone using my logo, since it was commissioned and paid for, but they can cut it out and use my pics if they want... once they bought the coin. I just don't care. Now, if someone bought a coin and listed it with my pics before I shipped it, then yes, I would have a problem with that.

 

When I buy a coin, I ask if it's ok to use the images. When someone buys a coin from me, I hope they will do the same.
I really get ticked off when someone takes my image and claims to own the coin when they don't.

 

Yes. You may ask.

 

There is a huge difference between fraud and using the image you looked at when purchasing a coin that shows the coin honestly and well.

ps I would be very surprised if any of the images used to sell the coins themselves were copy written. It's not automatic you know. You have to file paperwork to obtain it. Newspapers and magazines do it as a part of their normal operations. But I suspect online marketers really aren't that thorough since there is no market for the image after you sell the coin.

I would never dream of using images in the published references without permission because those images are the product they are selling. But advertising images are a bird of a different feather.

 

(The following is not directed at you @Marshall, but your statement is the typical mindset of people who use other's images)

Unfortunately, the law does not look at it that way. Just jump over to any of the major photography based forums, and read about unauthorized use of images on the internet. I know that it's commonplace to 'borrow' images, as most think that since they can download/copy/save (almost) any image on the internet, they must be allowed to use/reproduce/edit it to their heart's content. But like I said, the law doesn't look at it that way.

FYI, the minimum penalty for unauthorized use of a posted image (unless it expressly says it is free domain) is $1,500 plus legal fees. This has been proven time and time again, and if the copyright holder (the person who took the picture, or owns the rights to it) decided to get all legal on you, you will lose quickly, and most defense attorneys will tell you to settle as quickly as possible.

Now, the chance of someone getting all legal on you will be slim, but there are a lot of photographers who will, and have an attorney on retainer specifically for this purpose (I know a few).