1893 S Morgan Silver Dollar

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by superrcoinn, Aug 18, 2017.

  1. superrcoinn

    superrcoinn New Member

    I have this 1893 S Morgan Silver Dollar coin and I'm wondering how much it's actually worth. morgan coin 1.JPG morgan coin 1.JPG morgan coin 1.JPG morgan coin 2.JPG morgan coin 1.JPG
     
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  3. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    If genuine search says 2-5 thousand dollars in vf condition but something doesn't look right about it but I'm no expert maybe someone else can help with that.
     
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  5. cpm9ball

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    Oops! Typo! I meant to use "by" instead of "without".
     
  6. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    What is the story behind this coin?
    Where did you get it? How much did you pay?
    If you bought it on EBay for a song, it is fake.
    If it is from your grandfather's estate and you know nothing about
    coins and are trying to sell it, it's fake.
    Hope it's real for your sake as it is a key date with only 100,000 produced.
     
  7. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Im gonna say fake. Even from those images i can tell the surfaces are very porous. Porous surfaces mean cast. Cast means fake.
     
  8. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    One of the experts here will have to point out why this is fake or real. If it's fake, it's a good one. If it's real it's worth a lot more than @eric6794 quoted.
     
  9. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Welcome to Coin Talk @superrcoinn BTW. There are some real experts that frequent this board that can give you a definitive answer to your question. This is a rare coin and a lot of people are skeptical when they see coins such as this especially if they have never been authenticated by a TPG such as PCGS or NGC.
     
  10. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    The picture is a bit small and lacking in detail. However, on a quick glance as Evan said, the surfaces have an uneven bubbly texture. The high points around Liberty's ear are lacking in detail. The "TY" on the band is virtually nonexistent. Meanwhile, there is a noticeable lack of any hit marks suggesting these features might be wear. I feel pretty comfortable stating it's probably a fake.
     
  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I am sorry, but it's fake. Not the slightest doubt about it.
     
  12. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    the date is what is making me think fake it has that cast look to it, and @furham if this was genuine I think it would grade at around vf 35 and HA realized prices says around 5 grand. Im not a professional grader but using pcgs photo grade.
     
  13. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    I would like the answer to these questions as well.
     
  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    The idea that most every fake is "cast" is like our own version of fake news, and is something that really should be put to an end. One person says it, another reads it and repeats elsewhere, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.

    The 93-S was made with one obverse die, and two reverse. If an example does not match either, it's fake. The date position is often an easy tell, although in the case it's not too bad. However, the date itself is not what one would expect from a genuine example, and just happens to mimic many of the other counterfeits seen (including on this very board). Feel free to draw your own conclusions.
     
  15. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    This is a real one from Coin Facts. As @BooksB4Coins stated there was only one obverse die used, so draw your own conclusions.
     
  16. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

  17. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Crude fake imo, not really worth anything unless someone wanted it as a curiosity black cabinet type item.
     
  18. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    As @BooksB4Coins stated the date is the key for me. Especially the 9 and 3.
     
  19. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    is it was indeed real it would be worth 2000 to 3500. but it sure does look fake so im going to say it is worth .50 cents. sorry that I had to bring that to you:(
     
  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Some others may disagree, but the fact that a date like that has not been graded/slabbed puts a real cloud on authenticity.
     
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  21. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Looking at the date on the real one, it's not even close.
     
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