1984 P Roosevelt Dime Doubled die ?

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  1. Jewels2017

    Jewels2017 Active Member

    I'm not sure if I've just had a really good lucky streak this month or if my eyes are just playing tricks on me ... So tell me what you guys think ?
     

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    no, machine/strike doubling
     
  4. Jewels2017

    Jewels2017 Active Member

    The last time I checked Machine Doubling is flat and shelf like not round and robust like the letters E and S shown in the photos . And strike doubling is also very distinct and has sharp like edges not round edges
     
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  5. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Must agree with @Treashunt. Machine doubling. Whit a spread like that there would be split serrifs.
     
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  6. Jewels2017

    Jewels2017 Active Member

    And so I take it that the split sherif's on this Roosevelt Dime is Machine / Strike Doubling too ?
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  7. Jewels2017

    Jewels2017 Active Member

    I could be wrong ... but I do believe that the tail of the S in the word State has a split sherif at the end of the S unless it's not visible in the photos
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Listen to Frank, he knows what he's talking about ...
     
  9. John T.

    John T. Active Member

    You definitely have something there.
     
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  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You've still got a lot to learn, grasshopper!

    I see parallel striations which are indicative of die deterioration doubling.

    Chris
     
  11. Jewels2017

    Jewels2017 Active Member

    Well thanks John T . Because I strongly think so too . And so I plan on having them authenticated and graded just to see if they are actually on the money or if it's just machine / strike doubling As they say . Infact I've noticed that in most coin circles that most coin members call about every coin a person post machine doubled or damaged and they want you to get rid of the coin or spend them even dispite signs of raised edges and split sherifs .... The point I'm trying to make is BEWARE ... lol
     
  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

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  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Perhaps you could point out the "serif" on said "S"?

    Yeah, that's it... you've oh so brilliantly figured us out!

    Can't put one past you, can we?
     
  14. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Look Jewels, I would never lead someone astray intentionally. Nor have I ever seen Frank (Treashunt) do it either. That being said, the first dime is 110%, without a doubt, one of the forms of machine damage doubling. However, if you have money to burn, send that baby off. Some people do collect coins with MD. You may recoup 5% of your investment on a good day.
     
  15. moneycostingmemoney

    moneycostingmemoney Yukon Coriolis

    You definitely have a 1984 P Roosevelt with machine doubling and it is definitely worth at least $.10.

    But welcome to CT! You'll find alot of seasoned vets to coin collecting and attribution here. I've learned more in the few months that I've been a member than if I sat for the same amount of time with my nose in books. Not to say that reading shouldn't complement, but trust the opinions from the long standing members here. All of the opposing opinions made here were by people who's opinions I trust. It's easy to get excited about finding something different, especially for a budding cherry picker, but until you have honed your skill to the point that you don't need validation, take all the help you can get. I've found some examples that I got crazy over at first find then realized that it was a minor or less desireable error. If you like it and think it's cool...it's yours to enjoy. But if you ask what it is and what it's worth, especially on here, rest assured that the opinions you get can almost always be taken to the bank.
     
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  16. Jewels2017

    Jewels2017 Active Member

    Well all that sounds good and dandy Mr. Moneycostingmemoney .... But first things first . I'm no cherry picker . But I am a research fanatic with a very strong passion and like for studying and learning about Error and Doubled die coins . Infact i may not be a coin expert either but I do know a thing or two about people . Like the fact that even an expert can make mistakes sometimes and be wrong because at the end of the day we're all human and in REAL LIFE especially with photos we can make mistakes . So with that being said . Can you please tone it down a notch and allow me to fill everyone's responses out first before suggesting that I actually take a check to a bank from someone I don't even know . You see as an adult I will sometimes tend to be rational instead of doing something irrational like taking blank checks to a bank from people I don't yet know . Oh and I am always into learning new things even at the cost of me wrong because that's how I grow and learn new things ... And speaking of learning things ... Here are a few more photos of what appears to be split S's so can you please tell me what is it called when you have Raised Split S's like the one in my photos or is that machine doubling too ?

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  17. Jewels2017

    Jewels2017 Active Member

    The coin probably just needs to be cleaned so that way you can actually see the split sherifs .... LOL
     
  18. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Sure is.

    As Booksb4coins was alluding to earlier. There is no split serif (or sherif as you call it repeatedly) on that S. The S does NOT have a serif. The term "split serif" is normally reserved for RPMs because most RPM styles actually do have serifs, unlike the Dimes with machine damage that you keep posting.
     
  19. moneycostingmemoney

    moneycostingmemoney Yukon Coriolis

    I think we all probably know a thing or two about people, but what I was trying to convey was if you have multiple people with many years experience saying the same thing....it's probably what's going on. I'm not an expert and am still learning, but I trust the opinions that you've gotten here.
     
  20. Jewels2017

    Jewels2017 Active Member

    Np Fellas it's Machine Doubling or strike doubling or whatever it is . And that makes perfect sense moneycostingmemoney . You probably know them personally so you can probably take their opinion to the bank but unfortunately for me I don't know them and whenever I get different answers like its probably machine OR strike doubling well to me that's a clear indicator that I shouldnt be so quick to just jump to a conclusion without first knowing my source but I do understand and get where you're coming from .
     
  21. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    So right after you accuse the board of lying and accuse us of trying to get you to spend your little treasures, you decide to tell everyone how "rational" you are and ask MCMM to "tone it down"? Oy!

    Apparently, you expect the board to take everything you say to the bank, yet we have to earn your trust? Sorry, but it works both ways. Respect begets respect.
     
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