My Antonia

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Parthicus, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Here's my latest acquisition from Ancient Imports:
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    Roman Empire, Rome mint. AE dupondius (26mm, 9.47g). Antonia, struck under Claudius (41-54 AD). Obverse: Bust of Antonia right, ANTONIA [AVGVSTA] around. Reverse: Claudius standing togate and veiled, holding simpulum, [TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG PM TRP IMP] around, SC to sides. RIC (Claudius) 92.

    Antonia Minor, often called simply Antonia, was at the center of the complicated Julio-Claudian family tree. Just to list her most important connections: she was the daughter of Marc Antony, niece of Augustus, sister-in-law of Tiberius, mother of Claudius, grandmother of Caligula, and both great-grandmother and great-aunt of Nero. She was born in 36 BC, the younger of two daughters of Marc Antony and Octavia. Unfortunately her father ran off with Cleopatra, divorcing his (no longer politically useful) wife and abandoning his children. She grew up raised by her mother, as well as her uncle and aunt (Augustus and Livia). The subsequent intrigues among the family are fascinating and very complicated; if you want to know more, watch the 1970s BBC adaptation of "I, Claudius", or better yet, read Robert Graves' book. Antonia managed until 37 AD, when she had a falling-out with her grandson Caligula, who had recently ascended to the throne. She ultimately took her own life at age 73, though Suetonius says that Caligula may also have tried to poison her. When her son Claudius became emperor in 41 AD, he had her posthumously declared Augusta, and paid her many honors, including issuing coinage in her name. Based on her portrait, she was probably never a great beauty, but she does have the strong, dignified countenance of a survivor.

    I bought this coin from Ancient Imports (Marc Breitsprecher) for $85. I think it is a good example of how a coin with considerable wear can still have an appealing look. This coin was sold as an as, although RIC and other sources seem to indicate that the type was only used on a dupondius. Normally the dupondius was struck in a brassy alloy (orichalcum) rather than the red copper of the as. Since this coin looks coppery and not at all brassy, it does seem more like an as. Unfortunately, the two denominations are of roughly the same weight, so we can't use that to decide, and a radiate crown was only used on dupondii of emperors, not other family members. I will probably catalogue it as a dupondius, unless I can find convincing evidence to the contrary. Please share your coins of Antonia, or anything else relevant.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I still need one of these. Worn? Okay, but it just leaves more to the imagination, right? Congratulations.
     
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  4. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    An enlargement of the reverse of my coin shows the orichalcum = dupondius.

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  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Great little bio you've written about her, @Parthicus

    This is my only Antonia coin, just like yours but with a mottled patina:

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    Antonia, wife of Nero Claudius Drusus, Augusta AD 37 and 41
    Roman orichalcum Dupondius, 12.10 gm, 28.3 mm
    Rome, under son, Claudius, AD 41-50
    Obv: ANTONIA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right
    Rev: TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG P M TR, Claudius, veiled and togate, standing left, holding simpulum
    Refs: RIC 92; Sear 1902; BMC 166
     
  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice, I just have a Tet, which suits me fine.

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    Claudius (41 - 54 A.D.)
    AR Tetradrachm
    EGYPT, Alexandria
    O: TI KLA[UDI KAIS SEBA GERMANI AUTOKR], laureate head of Claudius right; LB to right.
    R: ANTWNIA SEBASTH, draped bust of Antonia right, wearing hair in long plait.
    Dated RY 2 (41/2 AD)
    23mm
    11.62g
    Dattari 114; Milne 61-64; Emmett 73.
     
  7. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Nice Parthicus, although worn you can still see her portrait quite well, congrats as a scarce coin. I got a Macedon Antonia with bad boy Caligula on the other side. 349.jpeg
     
  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A nice addition!
     
  9. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    2 worn Antonia's , I think the one on the left is an As, the one the right perhaps a Dupondius.
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  10. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Antonia's always one nice to have, good catch

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    Antonia, As Restitution of Claudius
    ANTONIA AVGVSTA, bust of Antonia right
    TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG PM TRP IMP, Claudius standing left, holding simpulum. SC in field
    11,37 gr
    Ref : RCV #1902, Cohen #6

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  11. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Nice score @Parthicus! I also have one of those, which I bought because I love the portrait on the obverse.
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    AE dupondius 11.82gm - 29 mm
     
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  12. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    Antonia is one of the roman "rulers" that I just have none...
    I hope that not for much time!
    Congrats for the coin! All the coins presented here are very appreciable.

    By the way, I'm very fresh here. I know that this is not the right place to ask, but how can I post some pics directly from my cell phone (IPhone)? Can you help me? Thanks,

    Paulo Gerritsen Plaggert
     
  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Super pickup of this tough to get coin @Parthicus !

    I have one:
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    RI ANTONIA Minor AVGVSTA d-Marc Antony w-Nero Claudius Drusus AE Dupondius 28mm 11.8g togate holding simpulum S-C
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    While much lower grade, I recall selecting mine because I liked the colors of orichalcum and patina (not green). It has been with me for 30 years.
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