Trade Dollar 1876 opinions? fake?

What do you think?

 

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Better minds here will be able to tell authenticity but it appears to have been cleaned.

 

It's out of my wheel house also.
Looks like it could be an impaired proof?

 

Absolutely no idea, but interested to see what the consensus opinion is. Good Luck

 

It looks genuine, the design is not mushy, and it doesn't look like an atrocious Chinese counterfeit. Probably a proof, but cleaned.

 

Toning does not look right. And call me cautious, but I would never buy a trade dollar unless it is certified.

 

Surely it's a test, retro-type types are feasible for the year
This is definitely a type-1 / type-2 combination.

 

I don't think it's real but that's only because it looks way too good! I mean if somebody really had a coin like that and it was real, they wouldn't let it get cleaned or AT. jmho

 

I think it is genuine. Strike is excellent, could be a proof, as all 3 obv/rev combos were struck in proof that year. Most are I/II as is this coin.

 

+1

 

The only thing that bothers me is the relative flatness of the upper obverse - hair, arms, upper stars - by comparison to the hammering the rest of the coin got. I'm not one to draw firm conclusions based on small images, but there's enough meat here to convince me that a TPG needs to see it.

Quite the introductory post, @tresta. What else you got?

 

@tresta, is this coin already yours? If so, where did you buy it and for how much?

If not yours already/yet, where is it for sale? (Not so someone else can buy it, but to give us some additional information)

 

I do not have much else but weight and size are right and it's part of a private collection
If it is a Chinese copy and done really well

 

If that one is a fake, I should have stopped collecting them years ago.

 

If you could find out where the owner acquired it, for how much, and when, that might give some clues. Thanks.

 

It looks real to me, but I'm not qualified to make a decision. I bought a 76 last year from a dealer in Calif...it also looked nice like this one, but the color was also charcoal. I sent it to ANACS and it came back as fake. The dealer promptly refunded my $150 and all was good. He said he bought a couple of these from a walk-in seller and now is stuck with them. I will never buy another if it's not in an accepted graded slab.

 

Has a photo

 

Slabs are faked too.
I don't know enough about this series. It seems to be in great shape,
which makes me suspicious. Even if it were a proof, why is it raw?
These coins without wear or chop marks would need to be certified, and
from a seller who accepts returns. And chop marks have been faked too.
Just from looking at the photo and comparing, it looks real. But we would need
an expert in this series to weigh in. The charcoal color is a concern. It doesn't
seem natural. This is one series that you can't buy raw if you are not an expert.
As for the "private collection", unless you know the collector personally and very closely, I take that to mean the same thing as "estate sale find". Just bogus advertising to sell the piece.

 

Looks too good to be true but if I owned it , it would be on it's way to slabsville tomorrow!