E-bay Graded Coin Rules Are Officially Posted

Yea, but what were the first 4?

 

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The information I have says that you are wrong on at least one. Per http://www.sampleslabs.com/acg.html

I am not sure how to read that one, but if their heyday was 1986 - 1989, I assume that they were started before 1986.

Therefore, the original 4 were ANACS, ACG, Blanchard?, and either PCGS or PCI.

 

BTW, the latest Coin World reported the Ebay action on page 1.
Interesting to read a well laid out report.
Enough time has gone by for them to get the facts straight.

 

And I see on Coin World's website that there is also a headline: "Lockout of ICCS, CCCS firms rankles hobbyists", referring to the lack of inclusion of the Canadian TPGs. I had been wondering about that, a couple of pages ago.

 

It's on front page Numi news today also, Coin World article is far better.

Also, I see Abon has loaded up on the listings, while another SGS seller ( the guy with the MS-67 VDB's) has changed his listings to reflect the new rules already.

My feeling is Abon is going to just keep it up knowing Ebay will be slower to mess with all that commision money, time will tell.

 

Big surprise there Jack?

I figured they'd load up big time as well. Ebay will let the first batch slide unscathed I'm thinking as there are a lot of listing fees to be had. Abon knows that.

Now, round 2 (after October 1) could get interesting. That's when the complaints should really start being sent to ebay.

A good chance to see what ebay is really made of.

Get those typing fingers warmed up folks. Repeat the mantra.

Copy, paste, report.
Copy, paste, report.
Copy, paste, report.

 

Clembo wrote:

"Copy, paste, report.
Copy, paste, report.
Copy, paste, report."

Why waste your time?

The "ADMINISTRATOR" here said in as many words, in many postings, "Screw the Newbie", Buyer beware, caveat emptor, do you own homework etc. Or else you deserve to get run over by the crooks. Re-Read the whole thread.

I stand by my repeated comments that EBAY and the ANA both have specific, and not so specific (but implied) responsibility to protect the naive, new, older, and generally unsophisticated buyers from the crooks. These crooks include the widespread and rampant self-graders, that have been running wild and stealing TENS, maybe HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of Dollars for many years from the unsophisticated on EBAY and beyond.

How anyone can defend the actions, or make excuses for these blatant crooks, and put it on the more often than not naive collector. "THROW THEM TO THE WOLVES"????

I think not....

 

BZ,

The way you started this post I was confused. Why waste your time?
Had to reorientate myself.

So as BZ asks Why waste your time?
Well, I don't think it's a waste of time for starters - neither does BZ for the record. If I can get one auction knocked off through a little copy, paste and form letter it's not that big of a deal. This is where the Copy, Paste, Report part comes in.

Ebay has "opened the door" as it were. The only way to make them really realize it is to take the opportunity. I'm sure they get their share of complaints but a tsunami of complaints would be a wonderful thing IMHO.

For those that actually do think it's a waste of time fine. Don't waste your valuable time. Why do you even waste your valuable time posting that it's a waste of your valuable time?

Nothing in this world comes on a platter. At some point you have to work for it. That requires valuable time. If people never took the effort to change things when an opportunity arose history itself would be a totally different read.

Any change takes time. This change may take a lot of time. Hey, it may not even change all that much but if I don't try to change it with a little time than I have given up on something I believe in. Throwing in the towel is easy. Trying to right wrongs takes heart.

Guess some people lack that quality.

 

newbie here: went into Abon store and searched sgs-nothing after the 1st shows up-looks like they've been working hard. also if anyone has placed a big on the item then it probably won't be removed? copy paste report. :hammer: JD

 

okay noob here who has gotten caught up in this tpg thing. I would say there is only one grade of coin on the Sheldon scale that can be described in a word-and that is Perfect. So, abon is describing their coins as Perfect now instead of MS70 or PF70 in the title. I may not have known in the beginning what MS70 was but I do know that there is very few things in this world that are perfect. Also, abon almost never posts the actual slab you will receive-"stock photos" if you can grade a coin online then you can tell the photos are all the same. If they had just graded my coin MS60 or 65. but nooooo, MS70, I gues we all want to believe that we are getting an amazing deal on coinage on Ebay.

I had no idea coin collecting was going to be so much fun-VAM is going to be an addiction i feel. peace J

 

First of all welcome to the forum and the hobby apparently.

Glad to see that you are observant with the TPG thing. It wil save you a lot of heartache (and dollars) in the long run!

clembo