Canada Victoria Large Cent Variety ID

Here are a couple pieces I've come into possession of and would appreciate some assistance on the identification of the exact variety. I did some research but ended up confused and cross eyed. Thanks! Thoughts on condition and value are always appreciated.

1859

1891

 

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@Paddy54 @SuperDave

 

Have you been to this site?
http://coinsandcanada.com/coins-prices.php?canadian_coins=1-cent-1858-1859

 

Coins and Canada has great information highly recommend this site.

 

Yes it does...however, that's what had my head spinning.

 

Canadian Large Cents have not been categorized by variety to the extent that earlier US issues have.

Your 1891 is the common Large Leaf, Large Date (best date pickup being the top loop of the date being wider than the bottom).

1859 *has* been done, pretty exhaustively. I'm out and cannot attribute it for you, so I'll just link you to where I'd have gone anyway:

www.vickycents.com

 

Dangit. I couldn't leave it alone.

PC59-102, Obverse 10, Reverse E12a, Die State 3.

 

Both coins are very common and have been cleaned. Based on the small vine break at leaf 7, it was struck pretty early in the mintage year .. the gap grew much wider as the year went on and the hub/master gradually chipped away.