Guess the Grade - 1885 Morgan

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  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    What do you think the grade is on this Morgan? Comments appreciated; use SLEC if you would like!

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  3. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    My goodness.

    I call it 63, even though literally everything except the prime focal grading area (the cheek) cries out for more. 64 maybe, and that's what I think the slab says.
     
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  4. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing MS64. A very pretty coin, especially the reverse, but her cheek looks like she may have been in a knife fight...
     
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  5. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    MS63 unless what looks like bag rub was deemed the result of brief circulation. Absolutely stunning reverse regardless of grade.
     
  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Nice cardboard coin. MS64.
     
  7. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I'm also at 63 nice tone would love to own,but as others have said she's banged up....
     
  9. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    64+....Its amazing how much cheaper a coin like this is, as opposed to, if the toning was on the obverse.
     
  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm wondering if both PCGS and CAC felt there was rub like @Dave Waterstraat mentioned?

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  11. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    They can't get it right every time. ;)
     
  12. JBOCON

    JBOCON Well-Known Member

  13. JBOCON

    JBOCON Well-Known Member

    Even after you showed the grade
     
  14. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm thinking that, regardless of any other indications regarding grade, they felt the marks were not consistent with zero circulation and they therefore had to offer a circulated grade for it.

    A disadvantage to the beautiful toning on the reverse is that the untoned areas of the devices can resemble "rub" by contrast, as well.

    Guess I can't argue the conclusion.
     
  15. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    This would make a GREAT specimen 4 the toning premium thread (part 2):woot::woot:

    Im curious what the premium was -if any-
    4 this example....
    Its been my experience that (toned) generic silver $ graded AU dont really fetch much of a premium, compared to there MS counterparts......
     
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    My gut said that there was rub (particularly with the color change on the eagle's breast and wingtips), but I felt it could be arguably a MS-63 with a possible bump for color (TPG grade, not mine).

    I would not pay a premium for the color, but I am a cheapskate.
     
  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Funny. I was thinking 58 as I just first saw it but started convincing myself it was in a 63 slab then I scrolled down to say that and the grade was posted. Lol. Always go with your gut!
     
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  18. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    This is a really beautiful Morgan. I'd call it the "Rising Phoenix".. I missed the GTG opportunity.
     
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  19. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Thank you!

    You may have missed the GTG, but now you can guess the premium in the Toning Premium Part 2 thread.
     
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  20. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    Geeez. I was thinking MS64. Way off.....
     
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