I picked this up today. It's ANACS certified as genuine Die Pair 2 but, at the request of the dealer it was not graded. There are a few scratches on the portrait, but the date is clear and the reverse is very nice.
dreamer: Very nice. as nice as my VF-30! If not better. Sure looks like die pair #2. However, is it in a 'good' ANACS salb? (As opposed to the damaged/cleaned slabs? If so, I would wonder why he asked for a non-grade?
Thanks for your reply. Is there an issue with ANACS slabs being damaged or cleaned? It's an older ANACS slab (before they created the edge-view type). It certainly has no damage. I can post a picture of it, but not until I get home this evening. I also made a closeup of the mintmark area. The dealer, who I know and trust completely says it came in "over the counter" and he submitted it to ANACS only for authentication. He likes to assign grades himself. This particular coin is one I wouldn't have bought at all without TPG authentication given the apparent prevalence of counterfeits.
I was aware of the scratches. I didn't want to spend what it would cost to get a high grade example of this coin. Even some of the ones selling for more than twice as much were not very nice so I thought this was a good way to get an authentic example. Now THIS is damage.............
That is DAMAGE! Still it could make for a "filler" for someone's album. Your coin does look way nicer than that one. I don't mind damaged key date coins myself so long as I feel like I'm getting a "good deal" on them. Some folks won't buy damaged coins at all. And I guess if you've got plenty of money then that's the way to go. But for those of us daring enough to invest in damaged coins, there is definately rewards to be had. Damaged coins sell on Ebay all day long for big bucks and they also act as great fillers for holes in your collection.
Are you willing to fork over big bucks on the chance it's real? I don't buy a coin like that unless it's slabbed. Mine is quite comfortable in a PCGS VF25/Strong Reverse slab. BTW, yours looks slightly better than mine (not counting the scratches.)
Mine is in an ANACS slab that says "Genuine", but is not graded. Do any of you think it's gradeable or would it be just given a "details, net" grading or body-bagged?
Nice coin! I think it's gradeable. Aside from the scratches it's in very good shape. I wish I had one. Bruce
I do not think this coin would slab except at NCS or in an ANACS problem slab (SEGS would slab it and note the problem too). I would grade the coin VF 30 details, scratched, net F 15...Mike p.s. this coin is graded by the reverse, as the obverse is very weakly struck.
Weakly struck or not, I still don't think you can grade that coin Very Fine when the details on the obverse are missing.
Thanks for the clarification. :thumb: The salient point being that the obverse NEVER has detail on this die pairing -- thus you have to grade this coin by looking at the reverse. It is an odd coin to grade, and will trick most people not familiar with this particular variety...Mike
For dies 1,3, and 4 (weak reverses), you are correct. For die #2 (strong reverse, this one), the D was never punched.