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Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Maintain, Jul 8, 2017.

  1. Maintain

    Maintain Active Member

    Anyone had dealings with this grading company? Are they reputable? Will coin value be harmed? Will it make the coin harder to sell? Thank you.
     
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  3. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Yes the market shows that their coins generally sell for less than PCGS or NGC coins in the same grades.
     
  4. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    It's only harder to sell if you deal primarily on eBay, since they're banned from eBay, if I recall properly. Beyond that, buyers will usually say SEGS overgrades by 1.5-2 grades, and typically their DMPL is treated like PL. Sellers, of course, will argue that SEGS only overgrades by 0.5-1 grade, with the suffix being accurate.
     
  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Since when ? I see their coins on there ...
     
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  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Not banned on eBay but can't show grades or have grades listed in the title as they aren't one of the 4 grading companies eBay approved.
     
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  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Exercise caution and rely on your own wisdom and experience when dealing with coins graded by this company.
     
  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Well said.
     
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  9. Koinman

    Koinman New Member

    Wasn't there just a thread on SEGS and their not honoring their guarantee, or something to that effect?
     
  10. Dimedude2

    Dimedude2 Member

    I did not know SEGS was still around! Very rarely do I see a coin certified by SEGS.
     
  11. Stork

    Stork I deliver

    Their slabs are a real pain to crack.
     
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  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    There are some really nice coins in SEGS holders. I would want to see the coin in hand or know I can return it before buying it.
     
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  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Yes, they are. In fact, they still set up at major coin shows. I bought a R.6 Morgan in a SEGS MS63 holder at a show. It crossed at PCGS. Same grade. MS63. Other than that I've only bought a few Fine12-15 graded Large Cents in SEGS holders. They were a bit green, though...
     
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  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Thought that was ICG...Oops, it was SEGS...never mind
     
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  15. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I don't mind SEGS. I don't seek them out and I only have one coin graded by them. Would I contemplate sending my raw coins to be graded by them? Not a chance. I personally think I would be no better off than throwing them into my own homemade slabs. In fact I might be better off because I would save the money on postage and submission fees.

    If you do send your coins in, don't expect to get PCGS or NGC or even ANACS prices for them when it comes time to sell.

    Here is a SEGS MS-65 Type 1 Buffalo I bought last year. I bought it mostly because of the price and the almost terminal die state of the obverse and reverse dies. The reverse die has a fantastic die break that bisects the bison's rear leg. Personally I think the coin would grade in the 63 - 64 neighborhood and I paid $29.99 for it.

    The light areas with darker halos around them are from a fairly large scratch on the plastic and are not on the coin.
    1913-Type-1-Buffalo-Nickel-#4-Obverse.jpg 1913-Type-1-Buffalo-Nickel-#4-Reverse.jpg
     
  16. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    You're best off with NGC and PCGS, but they still require your own eye and knowledge.
     
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  17. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Wait, PCGS allowed you to cross a SEGS coin without cracking it out first?
     
  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Yes.
     
  19. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    From an undated article...
    https://www.fleur-de-coin.com/articles/grading-companies

    The final tally of the survey indicated that no grading service was ranked overall as "outstanding," but one company was listed as "unacceptable." Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC) and Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS) were both listed overall as "superior," the second highest ranking on the scale. Accu-Grade (ACG) was listed overall as "unacceptable," the lowest-ranking category on the scale. ANACS and Independent Coin Grading Company (ICG) were ranked overall as "average." PCI Coin Grading Service (PCI) and Sovereign Entities Grading Service (SEGS) were ranked overall as "poor."

     
  20. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    August- September 2002
     
  21. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Coins they have graded for me have been graded accurately. It has been a number of years since I sent any to Larry because the market only recognizes two grading services.

    NGC and PCGS.
     
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