1988 D Cent

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Dash, Jul 6, 2017.

  1. Dash

    Dash Active Member

    Hey guys want you to take a look at this normally I would call this machine doubling. But I saw Paddy man post a 1995 I believe last week and you guys had called it a double die. So I just wanted to double-check on this one to see if I was right or wrong on it thank you. 20170701_123914_HDR.jpg 20170701_123733_HDR.jpg
     
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  3. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    I think it's die deterioration. Maybe machine doubling. Not a doubled die.
     
  4. Dash

    Dash Active Member

    Well the D looks like die deterioration to me but the 1988, is what I thought was machine doubling but when they posted that one last week. The charistics look exactly the same as that 1995 there again I may not be seeing what they saw.
     
  5. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Well it is interesting, we'll see what the others have to say. Can you get a close up of the date?
     
  6. Dash

    Dash Active Member

    Yes I'll go in there and take a closer picture of the date I'll post it in a few minutes.
     
  7. Dash

    Dash Active Member

    Well here is about the best picture I can get with 20170706_082838_HDR.jpg this new camera and they told me it was for dummies. So maybe I'm dumber than dummies so I'm going to take it back today and they can show me how to take pictures with coins. Besides learning all the coin stuff you also have to become a photographer.
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The first thing that throws a red flag is that the MM has doubling in the same direction. this is further evidence of MD or DDD.
    MM were hand punched into the die at this time.
    If it was a doubled die then the MM would not show it.
     
  9. Dash

    Dash Active Member

    Okay so my first thought on it being machine doubling I was correct then well maybe I am learning something thank you.
     
  10. Dash

    Dash Active Member

    I went to variety vista.com and I look that coin up and it has all the characteristics of a RDV 006 if you look at the FG. There again I'm probably wrong but it doesn't hurt to try right.
     
  11. Ordinary Fool

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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The photos aren't clear enough. Take another pic of the FG
     
  13. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

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    Can you show this detail?

    I suggest rotating the coin 180 degrees relative to the lights you used for the first reverse picture and softening the light a bit more. Maybe put a napkin/tissue between the side light and your coin and possibly some vaseline on your main overhead light OR maybe a washer cut out of a milk jug?

    It's really hard to tell if you are using one or two lights.
    Shelia Ruley just posted one she had found recently with great pictures. Should be easy to find and it seems like the shape and spacing on some of the larger letters also are PUPs.

    One thing to keep in mind, more than a few legit DD's exist that have DDD or MD, jus saying.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2017
  14. Dash

    Dash Active Member

    Yeah that camera that I bought from Walmart that Sony that I paid 400 bucks for. I spent an hour-and-a-half up there with those idiots yesterday afternoon and they couldn't take any better picture with that then I could on those coins so they refunded my money. So now I'm on the hunt for something else because my phone just doesn't seem to take good pictures with it.
     
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  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    @Dash, you're a terrible cameraman. You have to get us those closeups crystal-sharp. Why don't you work on that? I'm not ready to dismiss this one as strike-doubling, just yet. I want to see sharpies of that date and if you can of some of those letters in the motto. Now get to it. :)
     
  16. Ordinary Fool

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  17. Dash

    Dash Active Member

    Yeah that's what I'm working on now like I said I'm not a good cameraman. But you think that I could find camera like that Sony I spent all that money on it. But every time you zoomed in on the date or the mint mark it wouldn't Focus right it was all blurry. So that's why I asked them for a refund and they did because they couldn't get it to focus either but I'll find something so that way I can take nice crisp pictures. I'm open to any suggestions.
     
  18. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    Oh yeah, I recall that now. Danged shame a 400 buck Sony wouldn't cut it.

    I am certain plenty of fine rigs exist scored for ~100 bucks exist that will take one single huge picture of each side of your coin able to be sliced up into pieces showing as much detail as you need.

    I think a Canon Rebel with a Sigma 105mm Macro zoom is pretty popular and they pop up on craigslist, pawnshops and other places from time to time. I saw one recently without that exact lens, but a very good canon lens, on craigslist for 100.

    I'm sure there are many others and fortunately I haven't had to consider replacing my Fuji Finepix (Amazon likely starting at 70 bucks or so to 170 new) which is pretty much point and shoot which will do the deed no problem. Mounted to a tripod (which stinks since the put the battery/memory card where it then becomes trapped) or in a microscope stand where it really shines.

    4 bills will get you a wifi camera rig and quite a bit more.

    To be able to cast what your camera is seeing onto your computer screen next to the pix on the attribution sites... nice, just like your scope but much higher image quality.

    What I am holding out for is a new release Samsung device (the new Note) with some interesting phone gear on it and enough horsepower to do point and shoot image stacking. Hopefully that won't hold back on the RAM. We'll see.
     
  19. Ordinary Fool

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    My friend, it probably was doing exactly what you needed but you needed to download crisply focused image files and then blow them up on your monitor.

    It likely will not show, on the tiny LCD or LED display, that type of detail.

    Just thinking out loud. Did it have wifi or bluetooth?
     
  20. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    One of these is 10 or 20 bucks. I believe it is about 20X and does ok although lighting with it is a PITA.

    I used it a few times with my phone but the size of the clip intrudes too far into my phone screen that I simply concluded, yeah it's ok and almost a winner, but, I'm not changing my phone camera setup to use it.

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    so it sits in a drawer collecting dust unless I use it on another phone
     
  21. Dash

    Dash Active Member

    Okay I'm going to load a couple of pictures here for you using the loop I'm sure it's not the best quality or the best lighting but I'll continue to work on it to do better. 20170707_124815_HDR.jpg 20170707_122136_HDR.jpg 20170707_122803_Burst01.jpg
     
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