Real 64 Jefferson copper error

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Joel Mashburn, Jul 7, 2017.

  1. Joel Mashburn

    Joel Mashburn New Member

    Ok guys I've been studying this nickel a lot and comparison to say a 55 penny and 55 regular Jefferson. So this 64 Jefferson under 50x shows exactly the same color as the penny but thinner than a regular nickel and the rim is missing. So its a copper nickel with same thickness as the penny and smaller with rim missing. About same size as the regular penny. Has anyone ever seen this and explain please.
     

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  3. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Please post image of the obverse (front) of the nickel,also use the full image when posting the image.
    Welcome to CT
     
  4. Joel Mashburn

    Joel Mashburn New Member

     

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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Looks like a nickel struck on a cent planchet. Nice find.
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Interesting. My question to you is where did you find it?

    There are off metal errors. A blank Cent planchet can easily fit into a Nickel chamber.
     
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @Joel Mashburn
    Here is an example that I own. They are worth from $250.00 - $400.00 depending on the condition.
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    I'm not saying that yours is an Off Metal Mint Error because it still needs to be proven. Can you weigh your Cent?
     
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'm half convinced . . . thinner, and with no rim? Then how did the rest of the details strike up so well?

    Most that I've seen are a bit softer than that, but the stretching of the letters in the legend imply a real strike, with the planchet being unconfined at the outside.

    It's a very good coin, if real.
     
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  9. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    Could it be acid washed?
     
  10. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    The picture below is your coin. Compare your coin in the spots that i point out and notice how different it looks. i am not sure if i am just over analyzing this, but to me they dont look the same. To me the reverse of your coin kind of reminded me of a more recent reverse with the shape of the dome. Maybe i am wrong... idk lol
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  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    questionable, polished.
     
  12. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Doesnt the shape of it kind of remind you of a Canadian Cent, if it were to be pounded down?
     
  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    What is the weight of the nickel, in question?

    Some of the edges seem almost flat, as if the rim was ground down.
    I imagine that this could happen if there wasn't a collar.
    something looks off though.
    I hope it is real, and if it is Nice Find.
     
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  14. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I think it has potential to be a Nickel struck on a cent planchet. The weight would be a big piece of the puzzle.
     
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  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It looks to me like someone used an emery wheel to remove the rim. I see a couple of flat spots on the rim.

    Chris
     
  16. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    From the photo only, and only
    seeing one side, it appears to
    be struck on a cent planchet,
    but wiped/buffed/cleaned.
     
  17. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    If its weight is essentially the same as a cent of that time (3.11 gms) then it HAS to go to a TPG (PCGS or NGC) for full evaluation (authentication, originality & grade).
     
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  18. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Seems larger than a cent, but maybe that can happen in the striking process, if nickels are struck harder than cents.
    Weight would be a key factor, because even if it were ground down PMD, it will prob weigh in between the two coins.
    Anything around 3 grams and this could be a find.
     
  19. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    the 95/5 copper zinc planchet is much softer requiring less strike pressure than a cupronickel planchet?
     
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  20. Joel Mashburn

    Joel Mashburn New Member

    it weighs 3.1 and i did a regular nickel and it's 5.1 on my scale. It came from my grandfather collection and it has been sealed for many many years until i opened it last night for a better look
     
  21. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Pretty interesting/promising, but no use going anywhere with it until the weight is known.
     
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