IKE Errors on eBay

As have I. A nice little 1961 Washington Type B with a 7% Clip.
It first came back as "cleaned".
http://www.pcgs.com/cert/18009494

I sent it around to several "well known" dealers (with more than 45 years experience) who all said "Cleaned?"

I resubmitted the coin and it came back MS63 and 1% less of a clip.
http://www.pcgs.com/cert/20463663

 

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Not to mention that it totally defeats the original purpose behind PCGS's formation in the first place!

 

Yes. The term uneducated fits perfectly for people who refuse to answer the main question. I asked a simple question and gave my personal opinion about an error Ike and all of a sudden I'm basically called stupid with no experience. Well, until someone answers my question about a fraudulent "questionable color" rating with an intelligent answer, yes, responses are from uneducated people unless they are intelligently guessing with an honest answer. There is no such grade as "unquestionably color" accept from a company who refuses to acknowledge that a normal person, not a big collector, may own the only top graded coin. In the coin industry, that's a nono. 99.99% of the time, a rare coin must be in the possession of a big collector or the coin has no merit. The grading industry like everything else in America is corrupt. I own the "only" DCAM 1964 Kennedy "error" Half. I won't send it in to be graded because PCGS is not worthy of grading the coin nor do I want to give PCGS the opportunity to say they graded the only 1964 DCAM Kennedy error. I will continue to say this, with over 300 million people in the UNITED STATES alone, not counting the World, if anyone thinks grading only 32 million coins is an accomplishment, they need to go get checked by a doctor or even a mental hospital.

Cheers!

 

I'm very happy for you. I would rather help someone who may need gas or food instead of wasting time and money having to keep resubmitting the coin hoping I will get a grader who will grade it. I have several War Nickels Clipped like your quarter. I have not sent them in. I own several steel errors, double dies, worth thousands, I'm just hanging on to them for now. I'm really not liking what I've witnessed with the grading companies especially PCGS, a publicly traded company who needs to show profits to investors. This is the reason they want collectors to keep resubmitting and paying fees. It's become outrageous corruption and all for the benefit of Dirty Wall Street.

Cheers!

 

Ignored.

 

wow, I'm speechless.

 

@USADealer Coin collectors are uneducated, the grading companies are no good and PCGS is corrupt. . .

If you've been at this for 45 years as you claim, it seems to me that you're about 44 years late in finding a new hobby and/or business.

Life's too short. . . Find something you like and quit complaining!

 

Unignored for this response.

Try again because you appear to have twisted the facts in your head which I can understand. Most new posters take extreme insult at being questioned over their opinions but the reality is that "opinions" are open for questioning and discussion.

What REALLY happened is that you gave an opinion on the IKE I posted and then launched into a diatribe about how "corrupt" the TPG System is with an emphasis on PCGS. Then you disparaged the reputation of a documented and well known Error Coin Dealer that has actually been in the business for a very long time.

That, and only that is why you are being addressed and challenged.

Since a challenge was issued to post the coin you are referring to as questionable color, and to provide your "Coin Dealer Credentials, you, as a fellow forum member, have the "obligation" to post a picture of the coin so that we, as a collective, can either agree or disagree on the color and the we can see if you really are what you say you are. Simply because your answers are not adding up AND you're apparent reason for being here is simply to disparage PCGS without offering any evidence other than demanding that folks agree with you.

 

I didn't answer the question because I don't know the answer. I think you're mad about a grade you don't agree with and so now you've labeled PCGS and everyone who doesn't agree with you in an extremely negative light. Clearly you're also violating our non political rules. Please be careful what you post and how you present yourself. I would be a hypocrite for calling out Books but letting you slide.

 

I'm almost sure we will never see any images. That says a lot. If we did I would bet we would call it questionable color as well.

 

PCGS doesn't have a real high profit margin on the stocks they offer. But then, I don't really know since I don't own PCGS stocks but I do know, from public data, that their stock (Collectors Universe which governs more than just coins) has only gone up $10 in the past 5 years. IMO, not a huge money maker.

 

Your question has been answered SEVERAL TIMES.

The opinion about you would be different if you could offer proof about your assertions (which you have repeeatedly refused to do), and if you made claims that were actually correct. Since neither of those have happened, we cannot take you seroiously.

People here HAVE answered your question, with honest and correct answers. Because they do not fit your agenda of bashing PCGS does not make them wrong.

So no one else except you is entitled to top grades on coins. That is pathetic.

 

This is my point, if PCGS would stop scamming Customers by fraudulently keeping grading fees and issuing a defaming caption within a worthless slab, maybe the revenue and profits would increase. Since the company "must" answer to Wall Street investors, forget about the customers, PCGS will continue the grading corruption. When you find a grading company, as in PCGS, where you can continue to submit a coin that was previously graded basically a fraud with altered colors, and keep paying until one of the graders agrees to grade it, it is outright fraud! If a coin is not worthy of a numbered grade, many can tell within a minute of looking, why should PCGS be allowed to keep the grading fee and send the coin back within a worthless machine sealed slab defaming the owner. The corruption must stop and the only way to stop it is if intelligent collectors take to social media to condemn the grading scams for the benefit of Wall Street.

Cheers!

 

Are you still here? Your 45 days of experience and unwillingness to learn from cogent responses to your inquiry is really getting you nowhere and btw, you also have no understanding of legal definitions ie slander, defame etc

 

Lol!!! I dont think @USADealer's avatar is their coin. Check out this link:https://hobbylark.com/collecting/Valuable-Pennies

Troll alert!

 

You dumb...go home.

 

Man you funny!

Nobody has EVER been "defamed" or shamed because of a "Genuine" slab for either cleaning of questionable color.

Maybe their ego's get bruised because a professional grader disagree's with their personal assessment but certainly no defaming.

Maybe certain "coin dealers" are trying to "scam" PCGS? Who knows? Nobdy thats who.

You see, in the coin business, and it is a business, reputations mean EVERYTHING and that reputation can be good or it can be bad. For example, ACG, has a bad reputation since their grades appeared to be "for sale" depending upon who you were.

PCGS, on the other hand, has a relatively Good Reputation.

Look, it's ok to be upset that you didn't get the grade you thought you should have. It happens to everybody that submits coins for grading.

BUT, it crosses the line when words such as "scam", "corruption", and "fraud" get tossed in as those words, while opinions in their own right, MUST be PROVEN and so far, you've added "zero" proof which, in and of itself, slowly moves you into the "bad reputation" column.

But you are Funny.

 

DOH!

There it is. Bigger than life!

Time to move him (really sounds like a him IMO) over to the Troll Column.

 

But look at all the fun he gave us.