Claudius Gothicus - big provincial from Sagalassus

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  1. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    The Imperial coinage of Claudius Gothicus is miserable (happy to be proven wrong!) so my upgrade for this emperor is this rare large provincial piece: IMG_6470.JPG

    Pisidia, Sagalassus
    Claudius II Gothicus 268-270AD
    10 Assaria AE33
    AV K M AVP – KΛAVΔION Laureate draped and cuirassed bust right / CAΓAΛCCEΩN lion leaping left
    SNG France 1854 (these dies) Rare.

    I've always wanted a large medallic Claudius II, and they are hard to come by.

    Seller says finest of five known. I'm not sure if there are quite so few, but it seems to be the best one I can find among previous auctions.

    If you have a nice Claudius II please bring it on. I gave up on finding a good Imperial of his.
     
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  3. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    What a great coin, Greg. I don't recall seeing very many nice large Gothicus provincials. Excellent score!

    My best imperial

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  4. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Great coin Greg, excellent portrait and love that lion.
     
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  5. Jwt708

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  6. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    very nice. i'm with zumbly on not seeing any big ones of ole CG and have 2 of the smaller imperials myself...and i thought for the longest, until corrected by @TIF, the 2nd was Gallenius(i need to retake this i know) claudius ll salt and pepper cannons 001.JPG claudius ll salt and pepper cannons 002.JPG Gallenius ae coins 001.JPG
     

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  7. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Yes I have a few Gothicus My best one here
    claud_securitas_6 (1).jpg
    Then my worst one here
    Claudius II-Gothicus Fides[RIC149]05-RE.jpg
     
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  8. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    My Claudius II... I think the portrait style is pretty good for the period, but wow... that massive provincial is amazing!!

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  9. Ancient Aussie

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  10. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    I have these two Claudius II Gothicus:
    104-01A-Claudius II Gothicus.jpg 104-01B.jpg
    104-02A.jpg 104-02B.jpg
     
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  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Very smart from you @Greg Heinrich to go the provincial route on that one, that lion is gorgeous.

    Claudius II's portraits of good style are tough to find (@zumbly's makes exception), some from Alexandria can be acceptable

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    Claudius II Gothicus, Tetradrachm Alexandria mint, year 1 (AD 268/269)
    AVKKLAVDIOCCEB, Laureate and draped bust right
    Eagle standing right, head left, with wreath in beak. LA in right field
    10.14 gr 21/22 mm
    Ref : Emmett # 3878, RCV # 11407

    Q
     
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  12. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    I agree @zumbly wins the prize for best Imperial. Your tet portrait is of nice style also. My next challenge is to find a good style Quintillus upgrade.
     
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  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member


    I could only find 3/4 of it....

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    Quintillus, Antoninianus Mediolanum mint, AD 270
    IMP QUINTILL[VS AVG], radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    [M]ARTI PACI, Mars standing left, holding olive branch and spear
    2.8 gr
    Ref : RCV # 11447,

    Q
     
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I just burst out LAUGHING and woke my wife!
     
  15. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    luckily(?) i don't have a wife to wake><
     
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    We have a houseful this weekend, and several Grandkids here. One 18 month old is sleeping between us. She just stretched, shoved her foot in my side, grunted, and went back to sleep. :)
     
  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    What a fantastic coin, Greg! Did I see it at auction recently? It looks so familiar and I thought I put it on the watch list. It's not often that you see a rampant lion on an ancient coin. I guess I forgot to bid? :(

    The Egyptian tetradrachms of Claudius II are sometimes rather artistic and have better workmanship than do other tets of that general era. Here are a couple:

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    Claudius II tetradrachm year 1, /eagle; Emmett 3878

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    Claudius II tetradrachm, year 3, /Tyche standing left; Emmett 3896
     
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  18. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    That's decent for a Quintillus. My Quintillus is too embarrassing to post. I may get a tet to represent him in my collection, though those are rare
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, Greg, no coin is "too embarrassing" to post! You have just spoiled yourself with too many GREAT Roman Ruler portrait coins! :) Nice job, and give your Quintillus a break. :)
     
  20. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Yes, you did see it in auction recently :)
    And despite my efforts to limit my shopping list to a few types, I had to have this one. It spoke to me, and I needed something awesome to represent Claudius II other than the miserable ant that currently filled his slot in my collection.

    Those tets of yours are very cool. The Tyche standing reverse is especially artistic. I guess all the best die engravers of the era were in the provinces.
     
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  21. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    I'm getting better at choosing nice pieces I think. But this will be my last coin for a few months - I have to pay for my trip to my next destination: Antarctica!
     
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