1968 S Lincoln RPM & DDO ?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Paddy54, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well the coin pictured is MS not a proof ! The ddo 006 is a proof, on Varietyvista.com . However I have about 20 more ms needing to be attributed . :)
     
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  3. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Well. Post one at a time we can be detectives haha post pictures of all the devices next time, close up. Like you did on the date
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I will pull a few more today and image them as time allows. I knew it was a ddo wanted to get Rick take on it.
     
  5. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    Well let's see the rest of it determine which one it is. Some that aren't have a similar date if I recall correctly. My first thought was 006 but, didn't think yours was a proof, although a very fine cent. I wasn't going to work very hard with just one cameo shot of the date.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    68 S 62917 1.jpg 68 S 62917 2.jpg 68 S 62917 3.jpg 68 S 62917 4.jpg 68 S 62917 5 vbd.jpg these are all images from the first coin posted
     
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  7. Paddy54

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    68 s 2 63017.jpg 68 s 2 63017 2.jpg 68 s 2 63017 3.jpg 68 s 2 63017 4.jpg 68 s 2 63017 6.jpg 68 s 2 63017 7.jpg 68 s 2 63017 8.jpg 1968 S coin #2
     
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  8. Ordinary Fool

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    Two things, I'm not sure that one is a DDO that isn't seemingly a bit more common than other variations. I haven't looked, but, think maybe a master hub variant which gave many of them thick outer devices. I may be wrong.

    Now that 006 sticks out like a sore thumb for sure!
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    coin #2 continued 68 S 62917 1.jpg 68s 63017 11.jpg
     
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  10. Ordinary Fool

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    What are you using to take your photographs? They are very nice and don't force people brains to fill in lots of unprovided image data.

    I find this interesting and upon becoming accustomed to inspecting coins with stereo 3D, one looks at poor 2D images with people who use 2D inspections with brains trained to do this, allow their imaginations to take over and sometimes see what simply isn't shown.
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Dino scope I've had it going on 15 plus years still works great
     
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  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    1968 S coin # 3 68 s 63017 A.jpg 68 S 63017 B.jpg 68 S 63017 c.jpg 68 S 63017 d.jpg 68 S 63017 e.jpg
     
  14. Paddy54

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    #3 continued 68 S 63017 f.jpg 68 s 63017 g.jpg 68s 63017 h.jpg 68S 63017 i.jpg 68 s 63017 j.jpg 68s 63017 k.jpg 68 s 63017 l.jpg 68 s 63017 h.jpg
     
  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Paddy using your image from post #1, let me give my reasons why I do not believe this is a DD. In that era, dies were made by more than one pressings to get the depth. If the 2nd pressing was not exactly on the first, then an offset would be produced. So imagine a normal width letter or numbers after the first pressing, now move it a little, say half the thickness of a number( date); and now press the second time. The first pressing could be cut in half, but the second ( last) pressing would be full thickness, so the "total width would have 1 1/2 times normal width, but one side would be the normal width, the other smaller. You can see an extreme in the 1972/72 below on the date and the thickness. Each side is close to being full, but the total thickness is almost twice a normal date

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    Especially look at the "7" , the horizontal shows the thickness and the verticals , not as much, but both are thicker than a normal one.

    I think the lines in the middle of the characters on the 1968S is either an artifact of the lighting or perhaps wear on the die itself. I do not see enough to indicate a DD. A double die of this date can not divide a normal size number or letter into half size each. Jim
     
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  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Purchased this roll when I was 14 back in 68.
    Still have about 20 or so left. If coin #1 is in fact an ddo-006 I'd say the roll more than paid for its self.
     
  17. Ordinary Fool

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    Is it PR or MS? I don't see PR there and it wouldn't be 006 even if it were.

    Look at many of the DDO's for 68 and you'll see that several have that same date and MM. I peeked at a few, seems like some pivoted from this general area which is why my guess is there is a master hub I didn't notice upon taking a rapid skim of VV and W.
     
  18. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    No these are MS coins not proofs.
     
  19. Ordinary Fool

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    Ok, that is what I thought and thought you also understood in that it can't be 006 since that is a proof. WWHO-001 at some stage, perhaps. Nice cent, I sure wouldn't "spend it" unless you do that with me.
     
  20. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Since they aren't proof, it's WWHO-001 .

    1968-S 1¢ WWHO-001

    Description: A very slight CW spread shows on the LIBE of LIBERTY. A spread towards the rim shows on IGWT.

    Die Markers: The obverse and reverse die markers will vary with each affected working die.

    Submitted By: Various individuals.

    Cross References: None known

    Comments: Numerous working dies for all three Mints were created with this doubled working hub including S-Mint proof dies.

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    At least the DDO(s) posted .......​
     
  21. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    see post 27, 36 and 38.

    Common and those variable details are found on many other desirable DDO's for that year.

    How are ya? Get your DCAM Ike nailed down regarding the pegleg?
     
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