My New Non-Classical Beauties

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  1. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    That daric is INSANE!! :woot:

    Erin
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you... :) I love it as it is actually the first gold issue for major commerce. Later, Philip II of Makedon created his Gold Stater that traveled wide as a major unit of commerce, and was quickly overcome by Alexander III's Gold Stater. Just had to have it... such a cool placemarker of History!
     
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  4. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    That is so cool! My brother has actually been eyeing one. It's definitely not as nice as yours. But, man, they are sweet coins. Bonus that they're mentioned in the Bible. :cool:

    I read somewhere that when Alexander came along, he melted down the darics he could find to use the gold for his stater.

    Erin
     
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  5. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    I missed that you had that. Great coin!
     
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I read that too... makes the Achaemenid Darics scarcer? But I would love to have one from Darius III... Alexander KICKED his tail! And he probably melted beau-coup of THOSE AV Darics!
     
  7. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Sticking with the OP coins or close...

    Apollodotus II:
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    Elymais, Orodes I c. 100AD:
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    Kamnaskires-Orodes, c. 180AD:
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  8. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    I wonder how scarce they are because a lot of them pop up at auctions. CNG usually has a few at the time. Maybe it is the Darius III daric that were melted down.

    Anyway, I can't wait until the bro can get one. There's nothing like holding 8 g of ancient gold in your hand!

    Erin
     
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  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    If anyone is as anal as I am about being able to read the inscriptions on every coin he/she owns, here's the Apollodotus II rabbit hole.

    The obverse legend is always some form of BAΣIΛEΩΣ MEΓAΛOY ΣΩTEPOΣ KAI ΦIΛOΠATOPOΣ AΠOΛΛOΔOTOY. But the letters are stylized, there are occasional misspellings (presumably depending on the literacy of the engraver?), and some of the words are abbreviated. Here's a typical example...

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    1. BAΣIΛEΩΣ is spelled BAΣIΛIΩΣΣ, with an I as the 6th letter and two sigmas.

    2. MEΓAΛOY is abbreviated as MHΓO. Omegas are spelled as dots, a convention borrowed from Seleucid coinage. E and H are interchangeable.

    3. ΣΩTEPOΣ is abbreviated as ΣPO.

    4. The K of KAI is missing.

    5. ΦIΛOΠATOPOΣ is completely spelled out in proper Greek.

    6. AΠOΛΛOΔOTOY is completely spelled out, but retrograde to the rest of the inscription (in blue from 8 to 5 o'clock).
     
  10. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Don't get me started on the non-classical. :writer: Excellent pick ups!
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Approx 1/4 TOZ Gold is a nice feel... modern or Ancient. I agree that it is probably the Darius III Darics that may be a bit harder to find. Hmmm... a target...
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    HOLY KOW! OFF with the Celator's HEAD!
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  13. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I also have one of these AE drachms of Phraates, recently acquired from Ken Dorney. This page at Parthia.com traces the progression of the coin types of Elymais - definitely worth a look. We don't know what the dashes signify, but an abstraction of writing is probably as good a guess as any.

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    Elymais, Phraates, Early to mid 2nd Century AD
    Æ Drachm, 15mm, 3.18g.
    Obv.: Bust of Phraates left with star and crescent, trident behind.
    Rev.: Regular pattern of dashes.
    Reference: van'tHaaff14.2, 2-1; Sear5902
    ex Ken Dorney
     
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  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    This has got to be non-classical...

    Burma, Beikthano, Pyu City States
    (AD 200-350)
    AR Full Unit (96 Ratti)
    33 mm x 9.22 grams
    Obverse: Sun rising over the ocean dots in between rays solid border around.
    Reverse: Srivatsa, sun and moon above - uncertain ancillary symbols.
    Ref: Wicks Class A early transitional type.
    Note: Minty fresh
    Prov: Old Private Collection, Tochigi, Japan

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  15. tobiask

    tobiask Well-Known Member

    great post !! I will research mine..
     
  16. tobiask

    tobiask Well-Known Member

    I actually enjoy the feel of the dashes. I don't own too many coins with clear 3D features if that is the right term, that you can feel, etc.
     
  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Your example has a lot of the obverse letters, which is nice, and the reverse has all of the Karosthi letters, which is great.

    Yeah, they remind me of braille.
     
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