Is this medieval penny a copy?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by NLL, Jun 29, 2017.

  1. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    Hey guys. I found this coin in a dime roll and I'm not sure if it is real or not. I have a hunch that it is fake but I wanted to ask the experts first. 20170627_232959.jpg 20170627_233012.jpg
    What do you guys think? Real or fake?

    My thanks go out to @lordmarcovan for recommending I start this thread.
     
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  3. smarch

    smarch Active Member

    Yeah, he's pretty cool. Extremely limited knowledge will not prevent me from expressing my point of view which is probably fake. Thank you
     
  4. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    My gut reaction is fake, but I'm not a specialist in medieval so I could very well be wrong. I'm tagging @FitzNigel as he specializes in medieval and can give a more definitive opinion.
     
  5. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    As with others, it looks fake - like the kind of reproduction coin found in a museum shop. The obverse in particular looks suspect, but I couldn't say for certain from the picture. Do you have a weight for the coin? I'll admit to not being an expert on the Anglo-Saxon issues, but I could check a few books I have.
     
  6. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    I don't have a scale.:(
     
  7. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Well, if it is real, it is actually a Hibernian-Norse issue (Vikings in Ireland), I think of Sihtric III. I have my doubts though, as these are rare and something about the fabric just does not look right from the photo...
     
  8. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Buy a scale. They're about $10 for a good one.

    I can't straighten out my neck now. I got a kink in it looking at that coin.
     
  9. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Looks fake to me. If it were real it would be a penny of Athelred II from about 990-1015 AD. Here is a real example. Aethelred II S 1151.jpg
     
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  10. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the picture. I'm sure the coin is fake but it is still cool to find in a coin roll.
     
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  11. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    In my opinion it could be genuine, it actually looks realer to me than alde's examples. The texture due to being struck on very thin planchets and the general wear have a fairly typical look.
    I'm not saying it is right, but I'd not be too quick to dismiss it as wrong without having it in hand.
     
  12. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    It's a Hibernian-Norse imitation of Aethelred II. Whether it is a genuine imitation or not, I don't know, but it doesn't look quite right... best I could say is look at some genuine medieval coins in hand and see how they compare.
     
  13. alde

    alde Always Learning

    I agree that it should not be dismissed without having it in hand but I assure you mine is quite real. The OP coin is in my opinion at least not an official issue but could be a contemporary forgery.
     
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