They want me to ship them my credit card!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Nemo, Jun 23, 2017.

  1. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    At least with vcoins dealers you get certainty over the price (no extra fees), lifetime guarantees of authenticity, and easy ways to pay. Sometimes they're more expensive than auction houses, sometimes not - but way less hassle!
     
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  3. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    and why?
     
  4. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    tend to be much more expensive
     
  5. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    It goes both ways Svarog. It's easy to see an auction price, such as my winning bid of 360 EUR or $400 US. What you don't see is the final cost of $570 for it to actually get to me.
    I have gotten many great deals on vcoins plus the benefits Greg already mentioned.
     
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  6. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Not always in my experience. And you can negotiate with a vcoins dealer.
     
  7. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    I see your point, but at least during auction - you know this is a fair market value to some extent
     
  8. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Also in auctions - currency exchange rates are always marked up from the official rate, by both Paypal and my bank. And then I get charged with postage, always unreasonably high in my experience.
     
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  9. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    True Greg, but most of the great coins at great prices tend to get snatched right away within few hours of them being posted...
     
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  10. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    100% agree about postage, 20 pounds charge and not even for Fedex next day delivery!!
     
  11. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Here's a good idea. Why don't auction houses provide the real price as you bid:
    "Current bid: $500. Real price (including fees): $600"

    They won't do that of course, because people won't bid as high. The auction houses rely on obfuscation of the real price to make money - and that is my moral objection against auction houses.
     
  12. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    By me :D

    I'm a vulture and i watch new listings on vcoins and ma-shops closely.
     
  13. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Ugh i hate it when they use FedEx. Especially when they don't tell me they're using FedEx. FedEx are awful - always require me to sign in person, and try to deliver to my home during narrow 9-5 hours when i'm at work. Won't change the address to my work without some stupid process that requires sender permission. Won't allow a pickup from their only far-away depot in Melbourne without sender permission. Every time I've dealt with FedEx has been a hassle.
     
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  14. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    but on the same note, they are pretty transparent , you just have to do a simple math: 20% on top+ 20USD/Euro/GBP shipping charge.
     
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  15. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    and what about traveling, you do that while you are in Cambodia as well, wondering thought temples of Ankow Wat?:))
     
  16. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    kidding, Fedex is awesome , never had any issue, plus if they are late with your shipping, you get your money back, amigo!
     
  17. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    That is also true. It's just extra steps in trying ascertain real price -
    something like: (hammer price + 20% seller fee + postage) X marked-up currency exchange rate
     
  18. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    LOL .. ALWAYS had an issue with them. One hundred per-cent of the time. But this is in Australia. They are awesome where you are, by the sound of it.
     
  19. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    pretty awesome, they have to be, in order to compete with Big Brown and DHL...Best quality of service here.. you can probably guess where this is... prob, not in Australia:)
     
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have had the opposite experience. Do you have a FedEx account? I can auto sign, reschedule ship times and/or locations. However, I am in the US and FedEx is a US company. I use them a lot for international personal and bidness. To/fro Asia, Europe, and the Americas.
     
  21. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    The credit card issue could be as simple as European merchants all use CC card readers that must read the embedded "Chip" to fight fraud. They may well not be able to manually enter your card numbers. It a security of payment thing for them. The US is behind the curve on this security feature.
     
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