Need help with the last of mine 160 ancients

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  1. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    The last four of them,
    However, I still find this beautiful coins, come no further than what I have now. My head is spinning. I hope fellow forum users who can help me maybe on the way!

    This is what I have so far!

    A. a very small Greek coin 8 mm
    With Helmed head of Athena ? / Reverse: strange antilope ? IMG_4444.JPG IMG_4445.JPG


    B. another Greek coin 13 mm
    maybe from Seleucia
    with I believe Apollo / Revese: Tripod between M and E IMG_4442.JPG IMG_4443.JPG


    C. probably medieval 15 mm
    ? / Reverse: Horseman IMG_4440.JPG IMG_4441.JPG


    D. Greek or Roman coin 23,5 mm
    ? / Reverse: Zeus seated left, holding patera and sceptre. Greek text IMG_4438.JPG IMG_4439.JPG
     
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  3. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    The coin with the tripod is from Messenia, Messene I think.
     
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  4. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    It would be very helpful if you could provide in-focus pictures of these coins:

    IMG_4438.JPG IMG_4439.JPG

    I think this is a Roman coin and I don't think the legends are Greek lettering, but it's hard to see from the pictures you supply.

    The obverse portrait appears to be either Vitellius or Vespasian, both of whom have bronzes with a similar reverse:

    Vitellius:

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    Vespasian:

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  5. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I think it's a Roman provincial. The reverse lettering looks like Greek to me. I think there's an Omega on the right side.
     
  6. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    Yes is true, right next to Zeus is according to me N, Greek E, N,O. itself I think of a coin by Gordian III. Head has something of him too.
     
  7. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    I'm pretty sure thats Vespasian.
    Along the lines of, but sure its provencial.
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    I'm no expert either
     
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  8. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    I agree the obverse portrait looks more like Vespasian than Vitellius. Unfortunately, I can't be very helpful on provincial coins.

    However, I'm a little wary of the difference in size between the obverse legend's lettering and the reverse legend's lettering. The reverse letters seem much larger -- taller and broader -- than I would expect them to be, based on the size of the letters on the obverse. I don't know what this might mean (maybe it's indicative of provincial coinage) but it looks off to me.
     
  9. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    The provincial bronze is from Acmoneia, one of the mid-third century rulers. Can't read the legend from the pic and my library is packed up.
     
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  10. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Yeah I can't make much out of the reverse. I know it isn't Pax as on mine. Could be emperor or Concordia or something else completely.
    But the obverse I think the portrait is Vespasian. Until someone proves differently.
    I don't have many of his coins and no provencials to back me up.
     
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  11. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    Your right, thank you very much.
    On the side where Zeus is seated text: AKMONEΩN.
    Coin is from Akmoneia, Phrygia.
    Roman ruler still unknown!
     
  12. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    Roman ruler: Maximinus - based on 4 letters left of head ( OVOV )
    Used the catalogue of Greek Coins in the British Museum
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  13. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Can you post a less fuzzy photo?
    I'm seeing OVIT.
    Which would even say my Vespasian guess is wrong.
    You have the coin in hand which gives you the best view.
     
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  14. Coinprinces

    Coinprinces Active Member

    Hope this photo's will do!
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  15. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Much better, even the portrait is so much more in focus. Incredible the difference isn't it.
    Maxininus
     
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  16. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    You're welcome, but I didn't really do the work. @Ardatirion identified the city and you identified the emperor. All I did was locate an example in archives, and copy the image + link.
     
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  19. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Dang. I should have pulled that up. CoinArchives doesn't cross search patère and patera, apparently!
     
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