Wheat Cent - Struck Through Error or PMD?

Does this look like a struck through error, or PMD?

This is a coin that I'm considering for purchase, so I can't get any clearer with the photo - sorry!

Thanks in advance!

 

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It could be a strikethrough, but with the blurry photo, I wouldn't want to stake my life on it. If you're thinking of buying it, ask the seller for a clearer close-up, first. If there appears to be any metal pushed up along the edge, then it is just PMD. Even if it were a strikethrough, I wouldn't pay too much for it.

Chris

 

Strike through or Lamination...
Don't pay more than $3.00 if it's raw!

 

Ok good idea, I asked the seller and closer pics will be posted later today.

Apparently, according to the seller, the seller bought the coin from a dealer who contributes to Red Book, and it's a planchet flaw. Is that a possibility?

 

sure, could be a planchet flaw.

But, still not worth a lot.

 

Planchet flaw? Maybe @Fred Weinberg would know.

Chris

 

I don't think it's a planchet flaw. The edges are too sharp and metal is completely filling the high areas immediately adjacent to the missing area. If it was a planchet defect, you wouldn't expect the metal flow completely into the deepest recesses. There would be some softness near the edges of the defect. I'm leaning towards strike through, assuming there is no metal pushed up in the fields (as pointed out earlier)

 

I've found, with many pics, that it's hard to get a grasp on depth on struck through's. Sometimes a minor struck through grease or other minor debris looks much worse in a photo than they actually are and can be shallow but present as deeper. It would be nice if this were struck through a piece of metal and had some depth to it but can't tell by the photo. But like was said, don't pay too much for it raw.

 

Here's a closeup photo:

 

What is the year and mint mark?

 

What do the arrows suggest? Hints at an error or PMD?

By the way, the bow tie looks strange, too.

 

Honestly, I don't know much bout this subject but my observation, I think if this was struck through, you wouldn't see the line of lincons back going through the hole. But then it looks like there was a string with a piece of lint struck through that's what I am pointing at in the dent. i still find it weird how you can still see the back of Lincoln inside the hole.

 

The Arrows pointing at the front of the jacket is most likely damaged though.

 

I'm inclined to think it a detached lamination. I doubt design elements would show through a strikethrough, but we've all seen delaminations which carry the design elements deep into the coin. It's a niche case for delamination, for sure, to be such a neat break, but it's even less likely as a strikethrough which retained design detail, especially such a large, deep glob.

I'd really like to know if it's a copper or a Zlincoln, though. Not that I think a Zlincoln could end up looking like this for either explanation.

 

I was looking at the middle of the dent, and I am starting to think that it may have gotten hit pretty hard because there are lines in the middle of the hold that kind of resemble the lines on an edge of a quarter as if something scraped it with sharp edges. look in the spot that the hole is in on the back, I'm curious if it dented to the reverse

 

A "dent" that hard would wipe out the line of the back of the coat first, before penetrating any deeper. That line is still there.

 

To me it looks like it got hung up on the line, and seems to go deeper after the line. I think we should wait till we find out how he backnof the coin looks. If it was damage to me it looks like it started scooping in the field, got hung up on the line and kept going after the line, maybe even leaving marks where my arrows were pointing, Very curious what that thing is in the middle going through it. Curious about the reverse too. I would send it to a cheap grading company if i were him if no damage is on the reverse

 

I will be utterly astonished if there is any hint whatsoever of this feature on the reverse. I'll repeat: that coat line goes away first if there's an impact.

 

Alright I will humor you. I don't know what I'm talking about so it's just my guess. I can see why why the coat line would be the first to go. Very interesting coin to say the least. Curious what the grading company would call it