Virtus Probus Antoninianus

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  1. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Probus (276-282 C.E.) was a rather interesting emperor. He continued the progress of restoration of the empire started by Claudius II and Aurelian. Unfortunately, he directed his troops to drain a swamp that was to be converted into vineyards, but the soldiers found the work unpleasant and instead killed him.

    This is another coin I won in @ John Anthony's auction last week and just received yesterday. It's from the Aethelred collection (thanks, Aethelred!). While I have another Probus, this one is an upgrade.

    Obverse: IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG
    Radiate, helmeted and cuirassed but left, holding spear and shield

    Reverse: VIRTVS PROBI AVG
    Emperor on horseback left, raising right hand and holding spear

    RIC Vb 887 pg. 114

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    Feel free to share any Probus coins, history, or whatnot!
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Very nice! Here's one that reads "VIRTVS PROBI" but on the obverse:

    Probus SALVS Antoninianus.jpg
    Probus, AD 276-282
    Roman billon Antoninianus; 3.25 g, 21.7 mm
    Ticinium mint, AD 280-82
    Obv: VIRTVS PROBI AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust, left, holding spear and shield
    Rev: SALVS AVG, Salus standing right, feeding serpent held in arms. V in left field; * in right field, TXXI in exergue
    Refs: RIC-500; Cohen 584.
     
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  4. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Nice addition.
    My only Probus also acquired from JA (just can't remember when).
    Probus-Sol_quadriga[RIC Vb 911].jpg
    And since you mention Claudius II. This one I found deep in my collection, when I loomed it up on my spread sheet I discovered this was my 5th ancient coin purchase just about 18 months or so ago.
    Claudius II-Gothicus Fides[RIC149]05-RE.jpg
    I find it amazing that I only got serious about ancients about a year and a half ago. This is #5 of 110 give or take.
     
  5. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats, ancient coin hunter, nice coin.

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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    As I recall it is recorded that Probus made a speech to the troops saying they had done such a wonderful job securing the empire that the day would soon come when Rome would not need an army. Draining the swamps is bad enough but telling your soldiers that they will all be unemployed is not a good idea when every one of them is armed to the teeth and well aware of how to change emperors. Remember this was the period when few rulers were dying of old age.

    Of all our coin issuers, Probus has the greatest variety of obverse types or suits of armor. The man was a clothes hog. While he also has some decent reverses, you have to love all those variations of portraits. There are many rare, rare ones but some very common fancy ones, too. Few will ever have the one with horse head
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3108081

    but we can all have some fancy military and consular attire.

    Mine:
    rs2810bb1500 - Copy.jpg rs2900bb1455.jpg rs2910b01457lg.jpg rs2940bb1271.jpg rs2985b01786lg.jpg
     
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  7. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Here is my Probus. It was one of the coins I purchased the day I dove into the ancients pool. It was very inexpensive;and although I adore the shape of the coin, I'm frustrated because I can't figure out what is on the reverse to attribute it. If anyone has any hints what the reverse is depicting, I sure would appreciate hearing them.

    (To me it looks like someone seated backwards on a galloping horse!)
    Is it a chariot?

    Probus obv.jpg Probus rev.jpg

    I love all your coins. They are beautiful and....mine (putting it politely) is not very nice at all.
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Something like this one I sold through JA last year. I do not recall who bought it. Now I realize it was my only side view chariot. I can not read your mintmark.
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  10. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Cool type with the horse's head. Reminds me of that AR medallion of Constantine obverse with the horse's head and emperor wearing a helmet decorated with a chi-rho.
     
  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Super posts!!

    I'll pile on with......
    Probus obverse forum.JPG Probus reverse forum.JPG
     
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  12. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Bing! Those coins! And I think I have one like the bottom one over which I have been struggling with the attribution. I did not think it was Probus. I purchased it thinking it was made during the 7th year of Diocletian's rule. May I send you a photograph of it?

    @dougsmit - Beautiful coins, as always as well as astute observations about human nature!
     
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  13. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Thanks to @Bing, I discovered I did have a Probus and it's better than the one I posted earlier. I'm a happy camper. Here's my Probus. I think I have the exact attribution almost completely worked out also thanks to Bing. Probus with beefy eagle.PNG
     
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  14. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Doug showed one like it. Here is another:
    ProbusSOLIINVICTO.jpg
    IMP PROBVS AVG
    SOLI INVICTO, Sol driving quadriga left
    R*B in exergue
    Rome mint, RIC Rome 202H.
     
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  15. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    @Valentinian - Yes! And the shape is similar too. Thank you for the attribution. I will examine my coin against this carefully. Your post helps me a lot. I am starting to see two horses going left now! And the wheel!!! Thank you.
     
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  16. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    LCT i think you coin is the sol quadriga reverse, like bing's second coin.

    here's a probus ant i don't post very often...

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    dang it....not fast enough. :rolleyes:
     
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  17. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    @chrsmat71 - I did not look as closely at that second coin Bing posted because it looked so golden that I figured it could not be the same metal content as mine. I will look more closely at that photograph in the morning when I have better light. (But looks like there may be a small difference in the middle of the exergue.) Thank you.
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The attribution for the coin in question is:

    PROBUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP PROBVS AVG, radiate mantled bust left holding eagle-tipped sceptre
    REVERSE: SOLI INVICTO, Sol in galloping quadriga left, R-thunderbolt-B in ex.
    Struck at Rome, 275-6 AD
    4.2g, 24mm
    RIC 202
     
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  19. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    @Bing - Thanks so much for all your help with my Probus issues. :)
     
  20. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Great coins all
     
  21. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Great thread! Doug's series of portraits are truly marvellous.

    I've had these for a long time. (20 bucks each... those were the days.)

    Rome mint:
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    Siscia:
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