Ain't Nothin' but a Segestan Hound Dog

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  1. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Didn't know the OP type : great find

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  3. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    Being a dog lover, I find this a very interesting thread! This canine 2013.025.jpg example from my collection depicts a scene from Homer's Odyssey, Book XVII, lines 290-327. It's a serrate denarius of the moneyer C. Mamilius Limetanus from 82 B.C. The obverse depicts a bust of Mercury; the reverse illustrates an overly optimistic allusion to Odysseus being greeted by his dog Argus.

    The engraver evidently did not know his Homer in creating the exuberant dog who joyfully greets his master on this coin, for the passage is to me one of the most poignant pieces of Classical literature. My heart breaks each time I read it. Odysseus has returned to his home on Ithaka, after being away 20 years following his participation in the Trojan War and after years of wandering to reach his home. He has had to return to his homeland in disguise because in his absence, his palace has been overrun by suitors who are attempting to marry his wife Penelope and usurp his place. To avoid being killed by the suitors, he returns in the appearance of an old beggar. As Odysseus enters his palace accompanied by his old friend Eumaius (who does not recognize him) his faithful dog Argus alone recognizes his master. But the aged dog, once the pride of his hunting pack, has now been abandoned to lie on a manure pile. As Homer puts it:

    “Thus they spoke to one another. And a dog that lay there raised his head and pricked up his ears, Argus, steadfast Odysseus’ dog, whom of old he had himself bred, but had no joy of him, for before that he went to sacred Ilium. In days past the young men were accustomed to take the dog to hunt the wild goats, and deer, and hares; but now he lay neglected, his master gone, in the deep dung of mules and cattle, which lay in heaps before the doors, till the slaves of Odysseus should take it away to manure his wide lands. There lay the dog Argus, full of dog ticks. But now, when he became aware that Odysseus was near, he wagged his tail and dropped both ears, but nearer to his master he had no longer strength to move. Then Odysseus looked aside and wiped away a tear, easily hiding from Eumaeus what he did.” After expending the last of his strength to greet his master, Argus died.

    But perhaps far from NOT knowing his Homer, possibly the designer of the reverse, like me, was too saddened by the passage, so he amended it into the cheerful scene on the coin!
     
  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's story makes me sad every time i read it! i always thought that reverse look like a cheerful reunion as well...much better!





    that'a an awesome dog coin Z....and I still don't have one.


    here's me and my dogs playing with a little rc helicopter...


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  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That's a fantastic Limetanus! That's an issue I don't have and want because of the
    story of Argus.

    This Hosidius Geta denarius also features a hound on the reverse. Traditions of the Calydonian Boar hunt has names for not just the hunters but their hounds as well. I only remember the name of one, Aura, the huntress Atalanta's dog who was killed by the boar.

    Lot - RR Hosidius Geta.jpg
    ROMAN REPUBLIC
    C. Hosidius C.f. Geta

    AR Denarius. 4.03g, 18.8mm. Rome mint, 64 BC. Crawford 407/2. O: Draped bust of Diana right, wearing stephane, earring, and double necklace of pendants; bow and quiver over shoulder; III VIR down left, GETA down right. R: Calydonian Boar standing right, pierced by spear and harried by hound below; C HOSIDI C F in exergue.
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Here are a bunch of Larry dogs ...

    Lycaonia Laranda AR Obol.JPG Lucius Axius.jpg L Papi.jpg L Papius Celsus She Wolf & Eagle.jpg Larry dog a.jpg Larry dog b.jpg
    lazer larry.jpg
     
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

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  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Love these coins featuring the dog. As a dog owner I ought to add one to my collection.
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @zumbly THAT is a great coin!!!

    My Dawgs:

    RR Anon AE Half-Litra 234-231 BC Roma Phrygian Dog S 598 Cr 26-4.jpg
    RR Anon AE Half-Litra 234-231 BC Roma Phrygian Dog Sear 598 Craw 26-4

    RR Aes Grave AE Quadrans Dog 3 pellets Six spoked wheel 59.8g Craw 26-6a Th-Vecchi 34.JPG
    RR Aes Grave AE Quadrans Dog 3 pellets Six spoked wheel 59.8g Craw 26-6a Th-Vecchi 34

    RR C Mamilius 82 BCE AR Den Serrate Mercury caduceus Ulysses Dog Argos Sear 282 Craw 362-1.jpg
    RR C Mamilius 82 BCE AR Den Serrate Mercury caduceus Ulysses Dog Argos Sear 282 Craw 362-1

    Blue dog Avatar.jpg
    My BLUE
     
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  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    @Alegandron, that lovely green Aes Grave quadrans always makes me jealous... awesome coin!
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you. Although I do not have an extensive collection of Aes Grave as I would love to have, that Dog Quadrans is really a cool coin to have. I lucked in to that one!
     
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