A Sestertius of Matidia

it could be a cast

 

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the letters are to rare/ iff you see the real one/ double letters

i dont trust it

 

offcours i go to find out

 

this could be indeed be a good coin

 

http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=MATIDIA++pietas

 

Ummm, are you drinking again, ro? (you seem fired-up)

... me too

 

fucking paduaners are to good lol

 

lol/ cheers

 

i think i have it wrong paduaners are to good lol

 

http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=MATIDIA++pietas

 

Well, as long as you're having fun => have a great night (hopefully Julius-G thinks you're helping him)

... hey, it's only a hobby (this is supposed to be fun, right?)



Good times

 

all past on this one
http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=MATIDIA pietas

 

a hobby men paid 1000 dollar of more/ i work there a week for it
the fun is the coin you want it is thats true mabye i never get it

 

I hope it all turns out in your favor. I can't tell if it's a Paduan example or not.

 

My straight-out, honest opinion.....
That is not a nice coin, even if genuine and tooled. It has been worked on beyond recognition and lost all appeal. For 1000 bucks, it is just not worth it.

I would save my pennies and gladly spend double on a genuine, untouched example, even if much lower grade.

Sorry J-G, as I said, my honest and well-intentioned opinion.

 

I didn't think it was tooled ... The evidence presented suggests it's a Paduan.

 

I agree that at least two of the three almost identical coins posted above are Paduans.
One was sold as such and the one in the Göttingen Coin Cabinet is, according to Davie Sear, definitely a cast as well.

All three seem, apart from looking tooled, to be double die matches at least.
As the Paduan that was sold as such has the exact same flan shape as the Göttingen Coin Gallery piece (including the dent in the top at the obverse), both must be casts from the same source.
Mine, on the other hand, has a flan crack and therefore, at least in my eyes, could (or should?) be struck and so, at least of these three, would be the most likely candidate to be genuine.
Maybe, despite being tooled, it was selected for casting because of it´s medallic flan?
BUT I also noticed that on none of the 23 presumably genuine Sestertii of Matidia I could locate so far the children on the reverse are THAT small.

Does anybody here have access to MIR? I read that it lists 33 specimen (Banti lists 20). And is there a story of die matches maybe?

 

The original coin and the other two subsequently posted from the same dies are all fake. They are not tooled originals as two tooled coins would not be identically tooled. They are not casts of an authentic coin as the style is off. It's possible that an authentic coin was used as a host coin to make transfer dies and then the dies were modified (poorly) prior to these coins being produced. These look like 19th or 20th century forgeries. If this was sold as authentic, even if it was described as tooled, you should get your money back.

Barry Murphy

 

^^ This.

 

Thanks, Barry!
That finally made me lose hope so I offered the seller to either cancel it altogether, accept a refund including the cost of examination by Sear if D.S. should condemn it as a forgery, or selling it to me for the price of a Paduan.