GTG: Non-Morgan.. 1923 Peace Dollar

I actually think the strike is superior on this one, the dies are just shot. I'd give this girl MS65.

 

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I have wanted the TPGs to give their grade with respect to each element of grading for years. They could easy provide the total grade on the front label and include the breakdown by element in small print on the reverse label. I think it would go along way to explain to people how they arrive at their assigned grade and to better understand market grading as a whole.

I mentioned this same method of grading in that recent thread about the 1951-D Washington Quarter. Of course, only one guy would play along and he decided to be obtuse about it. IIRC, you graded that coin MS66. Would you be so kind as to revisit that thread and give us your breakdown grade of that coin. Thanks

I am completely stumped on this MS-67+ Washington Quarter

 

Yes, that recent thread was one of the prompts for me to start doing this. There were a couple of discussions over on the NGC boards of a similar idea.

And no, I don't think I want to jump back into that thread.

 

Oh, c'mon, that might be the most entertaining and educational thread I've seen on this forum in over a year.

 

You know, despite what might seem indications otherwise, I'm not averse to adopting a grading regimen like this. I just feel we'll never see eye-to-eye on the correct weight to give the subjective portions.

Can't hurt to noodle it back and forth, though. Why not start a bespoke thread for the concept? I'll participate in good faith. It should be interesting.

 

You guys really nailed this one... I had 3 to choose from, all in NGC holders and this one was by far the nicest of the bunch.

 

I agree with you on this one. The strike is great, the dies were not. I can't VAM it because of the state the dies were in. I could not make out one die marker on it. I thought for sure the decapitating die crack across the eagle's head would be easy to find.

 

Justin, I thought that was an interior crack, I was going to mention it! It's just more evidence of the punishment these dies were taking.

 

I'm oddly attracted to worn out dies. I'm not sure why, but I love the look of the metal flow and die cracks.

There is also a pretty decent die crack on the obverse extending from the rim near the I of LIBERTY into the tiara and ends at the second hair curl extending up into the tiara.

 

Me too.

 

So much for the inconsistencies of the TPGs

 

Gotta say I'm normally not a huge fan of the Peace Dollar but this one speaks to me really like it.

That seems to be a pattern with your coins jt you have a good eye!

 

Thank you, I'm working at it. It's much easier to learn with these lower value coins. I hope to someday work my way up to more expensive coins. But right now my budget does not allow for it. I can only afford to risk my money on the lower valued coins.

 

I like the look of this coin. Those guessing 64 would be shocked at what makes it into 64 holders. Peace dollars just come baggy and don't really start looking good at all until you get to the upper 64 or 65 range. Even at 65 plenty of marks can be tolerated if they're not in key areas. Some marks can be found on 67 coins.

For this one, positive eye appeal, BOOMING luster, and thick frost carry the grade, easily. I've seen plenty of coins in 66 holders that are inferior to this coin.