1943 D Copper Penny

There are some very good people here who have given you good information.

Feel free to discount mine. You still have overwhelmingly good observations.

 

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With all due respect, sir; you're making assumptions and excuses in an attempt to make the coin out to be what you want as opposed to what it is.

I'd be very interested to learn where you've found all these accepted "differences" to the "3s" on legitimate 1943 cents. I've no doubt that by searching photos one can find examples that appear to be different, but this doesn't mean every photo is of a legit example. A genuine copper 43 is both a well-known and high-dollar error, and because of this there are many forum posts from people hoping to strike it rich. The point is that simply "surfing the web" and looking at whatever photos appear doesn't automatically mean you're looking at the real deal. Instead, search out photos of 43 steel cents or known 43 copper cents, and then compare the 3s to yours. Also, don't simply assume "different designs" will be accepted by grading companies unless said differences are an established fact. The TPGs have most certainly seen their fair share of "hope and dream" coins that turned out to be simple alterations to straight counterfeits, and everything in between, and are not going to give a coin a pass because of a submitter's claims.

That said, buying the OP's coin and simply burning that $100 bill would give you the same result, and that is a complete waste of money. Same goes for submitting it, but aliexpress likely has them for around a buck each give/take if you want to experiment. A better idea would be to understand that one of the beautiful things about coins is, with very few exceptions, the coin itself can tell you everything you need or want to know about it. The problem is that one needs to know how to "listen".

 

The point to my last post was to awaken the people who immediately shot down the original post's coin with little to no observation and enlighten or remind people the complexity of this famous error coin. The great increase of pressure on the coin dies and the marathons of coin stamping they had to take surely some adjustments had to have been made to be able to last so with at the time the one and only coin was produced is it likely only one copper planchette was stuck somewhere to at a later time in that year free itself and go through the process or was it the one penny that just made it through the initial coin setup on accident. My point is this there is much more unknown information about this error coins creation than facts and just because a coin graded by a gradeing company is the only thing we have to compare it to does not mean that another penny that has a slightly different look to it could not also be a genuine example. I am not arguing my penny's authenticity or trying to prove it this is a forum about a great hobby and let's all try to keep an open mind good luck to everyone on there coin hunting and have a good day

 

I shot it down immediately because I know enough to assure all that it was nothing but a fake. I did enough "observation" to be positive it was a fake. BTW, it is not the least bit complex once you learn what ALL 1943 cent really look like. And there is one single "coin design" acceptable to all knowledgeable persons and TPG's.

 

The original coin posted on this thread is definitely fake. You never have to even look at the date on it at all. All you have to look at is the reverse of the coin and fake is written all over it. And it's not even a good fake at that.

 

We have open minds here but we look at facts. You are the only one here with a closed mind. Welcome to CT but you have much to learn.

 

If you fully read my post it's very easy to tell my mind is as open as it gets so if your gonna talk me down u should at least make a real point on the topic and try to at the minimum sound intelligent when you do so thanks. I'm done posting on this thread so if you wanna talk down on people may I suggest trying a political forum instead of a coin forum I hear they accept no intellectual slander for chat conversations. Knowledge is the key to life and understanding every aspect and point of view of a topic is critical in discussing a forum. I no the coin on this thread is fake but I simply don't like people judging a book by it cover with out at least reading a chapter or two

 

There is a lot of information out there about these coins. I hope you will take the time to look for it and read what is known.

 

And you're still doing it, trying to justify what you want to believe over known fact; this all may be new to you, but it's not a new field overall.

No one is taking down to you, and claiming so is nothing more than a deflective accusation intended to make you the victim, simply because others refuse to buy into what you want them to. I've no doubt you're sincere in your positions, and that you actually believe what you've said to be perfectly logical and possible, but the facts, sir, suggest otherwise.

 

how about this 3

 

What exactly do you think you have or see in the coins you keep posting, and why do you refuse to believe what others have already told you? You've posted three different clearly reprocessed cents above, and have posted them to other threads, seemingly dismissing the advice given, so what are you trying to accomplish posting them again to a thread they've absolutely nothing to do with?

 

Wonderful! That clears everything up then, doesn't it?

 

i apologize for my thread intruding,,I am now understanding do's and dont's on this site,,i have done a lot of research on many sites,,and finding out facts on the coin u want to discuss is the only way you will get even a glimps of positive interest from members on any coin forum site,,so a spectro analysis,,,is this the best way ,,,metal testing place i went to said it would destroy any sample ,, and the two i showed them the guy said just by the tone of them they are not just steel ...and i assure u the 1943d in pic is not platted and is very soft and is 2.9 grams i cut one in half and it looks same as the outside ....what kind of test would u recommend ;from what ive researched they are worth some positive investigation...like u said every picture u see online is not enough for one to make claim as real or fake,,,facts must back the pic ,,and not just a grading service,,,,i will get the facts and maybe we all will be enlightened on a new find for the history of the 1943cent,,words on the edge of a few of these reads " experimental test planchette no denomination" then it vary s with coin on % but reads" : al/ % /:ni/ %/:fe/%/:si/ % ,,,some of these i could bend in half if i wanted ,,,,example of softnesss

 

It's a China special. Has the Chinese fake look, aged and artificial wear.

 

Look particularly at the D and S cents you've posted to this thread. See the obvious corrosion under the plating? This is painfully common on "reprocessed" cents, which is exactly what they are, and all the searching, cutting, or talking in the world isn't going to change this.

Oh, and if, as you're now apparently (??) claiming, the "edges" of the or any coin in your possession reads "experimental test planchet", please post photos. Otherwise the claim is meaningless.