1983 copper cent

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JMiller, May 24, 2017.

  1. JMiller

    JMiller Member

    So I weight all my 1983 cents . I had a few that weighed slightly over 2.5 so I had them tested at my shop for the material compositions, 2 had 65 percent copper and 1 had 91 percent copper. So I checked a pre 82 cent it was 95 percent copper. Is this 1983 cent an error? Should I have it graded?
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    How were the tests conducted?
     
  4. JMiller

    JMiller Member

    XRF analyzer
     

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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Not graded.. Attributed.

    Pictures needed. Actual weight needed also.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    There have been a few 1983 transitional errors found. But 98% Copper!
    Here is one selling for $17,500
    Not my coin
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  7. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    You might want to have that recalibrated.
     
  8. JMiller

    JMiller Member

    2.64 grams
     

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  9. JMiller

    JMiller Member

    We make medical grade devices where I work and all of our measuring instruments are calibrated on a regular cycle
     
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    JMiller Member

     

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  11. billy b

    billy b Active Member

    Wow 17K really.I guess I should put prices on my holder's.So when I pass away my kids won't get ripped off.I wonder what a MS 65 would be worth?
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Problem with an XRF scanner is how deeply it penetrates. Not deeply enough and it mainly just reads the pure copper plating and you get a reading that makes it look like a mostly copper coin. The deeper it penetrates the lower the copper reading becomes and the higher the zinc reading gets. It penetrated deeper when you shot the reverse. A homogeneous alloy like a copper cent should be, should give near ly identical reading on both sides.

    The 2.64 gram weight confirms it is a copper plated zinc coin. Standard weight for a Zincoln is 2.5 grams +/- .13 grams. So a withing tolerance Zincoln can weigh as high as 2.63 grams.

    A copper 1983 cent would weigh 3.1 grams +/- .13 grams so the lowest a copper cent would weigh is 2.97 grams, well above the weight of your coin.
     
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  13. JMiller

    JMiller Member

    Makes since but what threw me off was the other 1983 cents i checked it showed almost all zinc
     
  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Could a thicker copper coating account for the extra weight, and the
    incorrect metal percentage diagnosis?
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    The coating is probably not extremely uniform.
     
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  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Slight differences in the distance of the XF scanner from the coin might make a difference as well. Slightly closer and it penetrates deeper and reads mostly zinc. The plating is only .0002 of an inch thick. Scanner placement could be critical.

    Might be an interesting study. Shoot the same object from ever increasing distances and see if the readings change.
     
  17. Candyman

    Candyman New Member

    I have a 2.64 83 also
     
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