1880 S odd toning cleaned?

Thoughts on whether or not this has been cleaned or artificially toned? I don't buy the PL claims, but it looks like an interesting coin if it isn't doctored.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/232338634025?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

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Not cleaned but ms61 at best from the photos IMO...also looks like Christopher Walken kept that baby right where he kept his best friends watch as a POW during Nam

 

It looks original to me (not an expert here!) not the prettiest of coins but not bad either.

 

I feel like it's all original, but less than appealing IMO. The coin does have nice mirrors, but the mottled toning and the massive amount of bag marks are very distracting.

 

Not choice uncirculated and would be a stretch to call select uncirculated.

 

Obviously the slab on this one is a sham, but what about the coin itself. I know the 80/81 S coins are graded on a curve, but this one looks pretty clean.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/311876327063

 

Never buy from that scam artist

 

No on both. No on the second one just because of the seller.