Is this a fake?

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  1. Steve66

    Steve66 Coin People

    1870 Vatican, 5 Lire.
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  4. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Not my area. Compared to images I looked at online, it looks OK except the 0 in the date is not lined up correctly. But I don't know how they minted their coins.
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  5. Steve66

    Steve66 Coin People

    Based on the XXIV coin you posted, I think it looks ok too... Both have the same die crack on the left side of rev, and both have the small tail under the 7...
    The 0 does look a little out of line on mine.
     
  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    There have been some really good fakes of this coin in recent years, complete with matching die cracks and all. Your coin looks good to me, but it's one that needs to be authenticated in hand by a specialist due to what I mentioned in the first sentence
     
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  7. Steve66

    Steve66 Coin People

    Thanks, I thinking about sending this one in for grading.
    It appears to be silver, and the weight is about right at 24.92g
     
  8. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Yea I wouldn't worry about it. Not really worth sending in unless you just want peace of mind.
     
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  9. Steve66

    Steve66 Coin People

    I was more curious of what it would grade... what do you think?
     
  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

  11. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    I think it's VF details, due to fairly strong dings around the rim and fields. Also possible environmental damage. Might get a straight grade, but even so as a straight graded VF, probably still not worth grading.
     
  12. Steve66

    Steve66 Coin People

    I can see it getting a details grade, but Im thinking XF
     
  13. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Based on the photos I think XF is a stretch, but you never know :)

    Not a big value difference all things considered
     
  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I agree. Genuine coin, XF details. Maybe technically more like VF30-35, but but I predict they'd probably round up to "XF details" but zap it as a "problem" coin.

    Not bad looking, despite the minor problems. I'm not sure I'd bother submitting it. The surface issues and the rim nicks are almost certain to result in a "details" grade. But it's a handsome coin otherwise.
     
  15. Stork

    Stork I deliver

    Stabbing could be an educational exercise, and doesn't have to be financially 'worth' it if you have other motives. Plus, if you DO ever sell it then the counterfeit concern can be allayed.

    If you send in with a group of coins that are otherwise getting graded and use the discount tier it's not too pricey for the entertainment value you might be getting. That's what I keep telling myself whenever I have pocket change (or otherwise low value stuff) that I'm sending in for a grading event anyway.
     
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  16. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Looks VF. XF is a stretch.

    The rim digs will get it a details grade though.
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Don't stab your coins.

    Slab
    'em if you like. ;)

    @Stork might wanna stab her smartphone right about now, though. Don'tcha just love autocorrect? Yesterday an autocorrect glitch had me announcing to my wife that I am "bi", which was news to her... not to mention me.
     
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  18. Stork

    Stork I deliver

    Autocorrect strikes again. Yes, sLabbing! As for your autocorrect...yikes! Hopefully your wife laughed :D.
     
  19. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    It's ok, I've said way creepier things to my wife, and without autocorrect fails :/
     
  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    The reverse of the coin in the OP is WHIZZED. :(
     
  21. Steve66

    Steve66 Coin People

    Can you elaborate a little please?
     
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