Is one of these a fake?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Dug13, May 19, 2017.

  1. Dug13

    Dug13 Well-Known Member

    Both have the same ID number, but the labels are different. FullSizeRender.jpg FullSizeRender.jpg
     
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  3. Muzyck

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  4. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Could it have been re-submitted and re-slabbed? Maybe the plastic had gotten cracked?

    Maybe they wanted the "Eagle Eye Photoseal" instead of the CAC? From my vast 3 minutes of research, everyone seems to choose Eagle Eye over CAC...
     
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  5. Dug13

    Dug13 Well-Known Member

    I think (not sure) but the one with PS sticker is an older style NGC label than the one with the CAC sticker.
    I have never come across this situation before. Is there a way to verify the authenticity of each slab?
     
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  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    No chance of that. The CAC slab is the new one.

    Your initial impression is the most logical though, someone had it reholdered or it became cracked out and resubmitted at some point and went to CAC this time.
     
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  7. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Bingo! I'd prefer a @charmy sticker over them all if I had a choice.
     
  8. conder0289

    conder0289 Member

    The question should be, is where did you come to have both of these items ? Are they in your possession or are they photo captures from God knows where? Need a bit more info if you don't mind. From my observation of these blurry photos, I do see that each coin is one in the same, my opinion of course
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    As Conder said:

    Are they both in existence?

    Or just photos?
     
  10. Dug13

    Dug13 Well-Known Member

    I had to screen shot and reformat the pics several times before they would load on this site.
    The CAC slab is currently for sale at a major auction site and the EEPS slab is a past sales photo at a major coin dealer. (not sure if I'm allowed to post the names of the sites on this forum - willing to pm the info).
    Question - other than a damaged slab, why would one "reholder" a slab? I was under the impression that older slabs are more desirable by some collectors.
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    In this case the older slab isn't that old. And why reholder? Possibly because the slab was scuffed, or chipped, possibly they just wanted the newer edgeview holder.
     
  12. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    An attempt to upgrade - that didn't work.
     
  13. Obsidian

    Obsidian New Member

    Wouldn't a crack-out submission for a new grade have a different serial number? My guess is maybe something happened to the old holder or someone just wanted to have a new edge-view holder and submitted it for a re-holder.
     
  14. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    I would say this is a reholder. I am under the impression that you retain the certificate number at NGC and PCGS when you reholder.
     
  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Yea I had a brain fart there.

    You do on reholders.
     
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