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Hadrian Denarius Fourée 134-38 AD Tellus standing

Reference.
Strack 275; RIC 276; RSC 1427

Obv.HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P
Laureate head right.

Rev. TELLVS STABIL.
Tellus standing left, holding plow and rake; two grain ears to right.

2.95 gr
19 mm
6h


the rest
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=5729

 

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Nic one Oki.


TITUS
Fouree Denarius
OBVERSE: CAES VESPAS AVG TR P COS III, Laureate head right
REVERSE: Foreparts of two capricorns springing in opposing directions, supporting round shield inscribed S C; globe below
Struck at Rome, 80/1AD
3.06g, 18mm
RIC II 357 (Titus); RSC 497

 

What a cool fourrée, Oki!

And if by "best" you mean "worst"... ...



And a non-fourrée of your type for comparison:

 

LOL, I just cannot say "Nice coin" @Okidoki ! But...... nice fouree! I just never liked the concept of Fourees... however, I DO have a couple...


RI Julia Domna 194-217 Fouree AR Plated Den Isis Horus


RI Fouree Denarius Severus Alexander with Annona Avg reverse


This one I am dubious whether it is a Fouree or a regular issue Victoriatus on a bronze flan... the opinions vary:

RR Anon AE Victoriatus after 218 BCE Rome mint Ex RBW Anon Jupiter Victory crowning trophy Craw 44-1 Syd 83 Sear 49 or Fouree???

 

I have no trouble with the concept of fourree but a major problem with selecting a favorite among your children. Since Oki started this thread I will show my favorite fourree of Hadrian. It is also my only fourree brockage and one of my best examples showing clear evidence of a eutectic layer between silver and copper. It is on my page of favorite coins but it is one of a half dozen fourrees there so I can't say which is the absolute favorite.

 

Augustus denarius

 

Wow, I had to look up this word. Good and appropriate word, but I don't believe I've ever seen it written.

 

@Alegandron you are right about the "concept"
that is why i put them in one map Fourée/Limes/Plated/Imitation
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=5729

 

Hadrian Denarius/foureé eastern mint Roma seated eastern mint style

 

LOL, yeah, Engineer used it in plating processes... fancy word for: the plating material has to be at a lower temp than the base (core) material.

 

I was never upset about the Fouree as a coin; my feeling is that it is bad that people FORGED / Copied coins from the very beginning. Sad state of humanity.

 

I have just one (that I'm aware of)


Mark Antony, Fourree denarius Minted in Athens in 32 BC
ANTON AVG IMP III COS DES III III V R P C, bare head of Mark Antony right
ANTONINVS / AVG IMP III in two lines
3,52 gr
Ref : RCV # 1478, HCRI # 347, RSC # 2, Cohen # 2

Q

 

i'm in that group of collectors who consider forees, while ancient counterfeits, still worthwhile collectibles in their own right.
Augustus's forees

 

...whenever i see forees here, i think of your's ro

 

I agree with Doug ... I can't pick a favourite child

=> so you're gonna see my entire group-home of poor lil' fourree kids ...

Fourree Kings of Macedon, Philip III
323-317 BC
Philip III & Horse w. rider




Fourre, Baktria, Indo-Greek, Hermaios
105-90 BC
Hermaios on Horse & Zeus on Throne




Fourree => Nicephorus-II Phocas, w Basil-II (aka, Zombie Jesus)
963-969 AD
Christ & Nicephorus II & Basil-II

 

To my knowledge, I only have the one:


Roman Imperitorial
Julius Caesar, (49-48 B.C. Original)
Traveling Mint in Gaul, Fouree Denarius, 18.32mm x 3 grams
Obv.: CAESAR in exergue, elephant right, trampling on serpent
Rev.: Simpulum, sprinkler, axe and priest's hat

 

the funny is, i bought this coin as a real Augustus.
In that time i didn t know what fourees are

Thanks

 

I should preface this by saying I have not studied these interesting anomalous coins nearly as much as I'd like to but I would not at all be surprised to learn that they are some sort of emergency issue related to a silver shortage during the Second Punic War. Some sort of "IOU" type thing. There seem to have been other emergency issues where for instance asses of Canusium and Luceria which were woefully underweight(like 10-25% normal weight) and quadrigati with extreme debasement. We may never know but I'm also of the opinion that they are not fouree cores because I have seen several victoriati with no remnants of a silver foil left at all and I don't feel like these are simply cases of fourees losing their silver. RBW certainly had many of these and few actual fourees that I've seen so he seemingly was interested in the question as well.

 

There was a time I advised anyone who would listen to buy a 1933 book by William Campbell, Greek and Roman Plated Coins. My previously used copy is falling apart from repeated readings. Now it has been released free to all. I really suggest you read it before you form any opinions on fourrees.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000104992965;view=1up;seq=7

Not only does it use the word eutectic in the text but it separates fourrees which formed a bit of the material through the striking process and those with eutectic added intentionally to improve the adhesion of the foil and core. Campbell is filled with microphotographs I would love to be able to take but they were made by cutting coins in half and there are places I do not go for science.

Most numismatic libraries include Campbell because it was part of the great Numismatic Notes and Monographs series. I would love to know how many people have read it.

 

Sorry to say that I haven't.