Why are toned coins so popular?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by sakata, Apr 1, 2017.

  1. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    The reason why I like toned coins. Hmm.. well.
    Why do I like toned coins? Well, first off just like to say you don't offend me. Sometimes it's because the way it makes the coin look honestly. I haven't found a natural toned rainbow coin but those are really my favorite. I am very much an odd ball coin and will keep even damaged coins just because they are different. Something different to look at when it comes to coins. Plus, if someone was super bored of looking at your plain, everyday coin, you could show them something cool like a silver coin with a rainbow on it. And some people don't like the color silver, very plain looking and dull, maybe those people collect them because of that reason alone. Plus, if your coin is silver, but has a golden color to it or something, that's interesting to me. Just plainly on the fact that silver supposed to be a grey color, would make me want to keep the coin from getting melted down or sold. Another thing. There are a lot of people who "like it all" because coins are coins and any difference that you could speak of is like gasoline to a collectors fire in their heart. :)
     
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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Were you raised by "hippies" perchance? My raising was the opposite of that. We were counter-counter-counter-counter culturalists. There was one correct way for EVERYTHING. :D
     
  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Close. My wife tells me that I was raised by wolves.
     
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  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    You dawg, you. ;)
     
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  6. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    V. Kurt Bellman, posted: "What is the ratio, in your esteemed estimation, of real errors and varieties posted here to just plain PMD? 1:50? 1 to 500? 1:5,000?"

    :rolleyes: Smoke screen as the ship tries to escape...:smuggrin:

    This question has NOTHING to do with the discussion. Those folks are lucky to have CT.
     
  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    My bad. I thought that was the ENTIRE discussion.
     
  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    That's insane, they are leaving thousands of dollars on the table. I have a hard time believing that people that close to me could be that stupid. I live in Chester County btw!

    That is the craziest thing you have ever written and you write a lot of wack stuff. It is literally the opposite of reality

    S/B = Stacks & Bowers?

    How can they get better? Severely juicing brightness and contrast will always produce a consistent result.
     
  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I want to thank you sincerely here, Lehigh. You have helped me stumble onto something I had never seen before. You know that 1903 proof Morgan we've been discussing? I just saw that it's now in my "recently viewed" in my eBay iPhone app, where I always use to buy coins from GSC. The pic on the PC via Internet Explorer and the one on the "captive" eBay app on the Apple iPhone bear VERY LITTLE RESEMBLANCE TO EACH OTHER. Compared to the one on the iPhone, the one on the PC/I.E. is waaaay over processed and brightened and pumped up in contrast. I now see what you're saying! The Apple iPhone pic is FAAAR easier to examine well. I can SEE that 1903 is a pure dog now and I couldn't on the PC.

    This needs more study. I apologize, dude. You were describing a real effect that my "stuff" was insulating me from.

    I knew Apple had some "magic photo stuff", but this is nuts. Sometimes dumb luck wins.
     
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  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Home now. Tobacco sprouts are up. Cats want food. GSC still is getting different looking pics served up by eBay depending on the hardware you use. Who's to blame? Not sure. I feel a Money Talk coming.

    The rightmost quarter of the reverse, and from 2o'clock to about 7 o'clock on the obverse, of that proof 1903's fields are covered with grey/brown b-b-b-bleccch. Never saw anything but sharpening artifacts on the PC picture.
     
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  11. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That's the whole point of taking photos that way, you never see it until you get it
     
  12. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    You're a smart guy. What's worse? That there are two different types of pictures, or that those who buy "typical" hardware get screwed by crappy images? Now I have to find out if this is generally true, or if it's a GSC only thing on eBay.
     
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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Let's be honest. If I'm selling something, I'm going to do my best to represent it at the limits of my personal morality. That includes what I say and if/how much I alter the image. It is still buyer beware out there. You guys that have the guts to purchase something from a photo make the world go around! :joyful:
     
  14. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    There's a bit of a voice in the back of the noggin yelling, "To heck with them! Use the advantage you have to see GSC's coins better than they do." But it offends my sense of fairness. As little as I buy from that venue any more, it can't affect me much. Besides, Apple ain't payin' a commish. :D

    Next comparison - my kid's Android phone.
     
  15. HankKC

    HankKC New Member

    I am new to the forum. It will take me a bit to get my profile image and so forth set up. I collect both toned and non toned morgan dollars. That being said, I think the good Doctor and anyone else interested in learning about toned coins might want to research the toning process more. I suggest that you read the information provided at Jhonecash.com. His explanation of the toning process is very interesting.
     
  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    To review the logic:

    Kurt says pictures match coins.
    Lehigh umm, disagrees.
    Doug also disagrees.
    Kurt says PC pictures don't match iPhone pictures.
    Aha moment. More data needed.

    Just trying to remember if I EVER EVEN ONCE bid on a GSC coin based on a PC picture rather than an iPhone/iPod/iPad one, and I really don't think I ever have. If all I used was a PC, I probably would have stopped buying GSC coins after the first one.
     
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  17. HankKC

    HankKC New Member

    As long as common things are being sold for big money, there will be people making copies, altering things, or manufacturing new pieces to look old. It's been done for thousands of years. Even big time museums have bought new paintings of old masters for big money.
     
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  18. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Can you provide a link to such an offer? I doubt there are two types of pictures. Not sure what you mean exactly, but different displays, drivers and settings will change what a coin looks like.
     
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  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    No, it's more than that. The Apple app picture features way more magnification and there are no sharpening artifacts present. The contrast is toned down and the brightness is cranked significantly down from the PC version of the photos.
     
  20. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Apple uses Retina displays, e.g. on the iPhone 7. "The goal of Retina Displays is to make the display of text and images extremely crisp, so pixels are not visible to the naked eye." (Wikipedia)
    Pictures remain the same, it doesn't matter if you use a Linux/Win computer, a smartphone or a tablet to view them. But how they are displayed, that's a different story...
     
  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    With website building software, such as that by Squarespace, mobile responsive photo display is used. A different resolution picture is seen depending on the device the viewer uses. The website builder uploads the full resolution and the software builds up to 8 different photos, which of them is displayed is dependent on the viewer's hardware. There is no reason eBay could not do the same.
     
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