NEWP: France 1820 medal, Victory riding in quadriga

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by brg5658, May 16, 2017.

  1. brg5658

    brg5658 Supporter! Supporter

    I took advantage of the 10% eBay coupon last week, and picked up this medal from Atlas. It's my first numismatic purchase for quite a long while, and makes item #269 in my horse collection of numismatica.

    Best,
    Brandon

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    FRANCE. 1820 AE Medal. PCGS SP65. By Barre. 50.6mm.

    (Bramsen 1831; Slg. Julius 3685)
    Obverse: Winged Victory in quadriga over globe depicting Europe and Egypt.
    Reverse: Legend in wreath of laurel and oak branches. / LES SOUSCRIPTEURS ASSOCIÉS POUR TRANSMETTRE A LA POSTÉRITÉ LES VICTOIRES ET CONQUÊTES DES FRANCAIS DE 1795 A 1815. ÉDITEUR C. L. F. PANCKOUCKE 1820.

    Struck for the subscribers to a work by C. L. F. Panckoucke, on the victories and conquests of Napoleon. Charles-Louis-Fleury Panckoucke, born on 26 Dec 1780 in Paris and died on 11 Jul 1844 in Meudon, was a French writer, printer, bookseller, and publisher. His most famous published work as editor was that for which this medal was created, published in Paris in 1820.

    Ex E. J. Haeberlin collection. Ernst Justus Haeberlin (born 19 Jun 1847 in Frankfurt, Germany, died 5 Dec 1925 ) was a lawyer and commercial councilor in Frankfurt am Main. However, Haeberlin became known primarily as a numismatist. In 1906 he was a co-founder of the Frankfurt Numismatic Society. His coin collection was dispersed after his death, with the Aes-Grave portion and other items entering the coin cabinet of the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin .
     
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  3. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    I really, and I mean really, love the world map design and the amount of detail for such a relatively early piece. One thing I am confused on, and this has nothing to do with the medal itself, is why the SP designation applies to medals at all
     
  4. brg5658

    brg5658 Supporter! Supporter

    PCGS likes to use the "SP" (specimen/special) strike designation on medals of this era. I don't agree with the designation, but it doesn't really affect my ability to enjoy the medal. I think they likely designate them "SP" because the medal almost assuredly received multiple blows from the die to strike up the high relief details. That's my best guess. Another possibility is that they just don't know what they're doing -- which is also a distinct possibility. ;)
     
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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Brandon, you never cease to amaze me in your selection of medals. French medals will always be among my favorites when it comes to foreign medals.

    You can count me among those who believe that PCGS doesn't know what they are doing.

    Chris
     
  6. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    Beautiful medal, Brandon
     
  7. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous design, and amazing high relief, especially for the date. Congrats.
     
  8. dlgilles

    dlgilles Member

    That is a beautiful medal.
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Those rabbits hopping in front of that chariot have long tails for rabbits.
     
  10. brg5658

    brg5658 Supporter! Supporter

    I don't get it... :rolleyes:
     
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  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Poking fun at how they depicted horses in a gallop, that's all. As for the medal that's my kind of medal all day long (...hopping rabbits with long tails notwithstanding).
     
  12. brg5658

    brg5658 Supporter! Supporter

    Horses pulling quadrigae have been depicted in that way since ancient times. :cigar:
     
  13. Stork

    Stork I deliver Supporter

    IIRC it wasn't until the late 1800s that photography was able to show what the horse's gaits really looked like, and that when the artistic depictions began to reflect the true gallop rather than the rabbit/quadriga type style.

    Funny, because my greyhound will run with the 'double suspension' and will have a moment with all four feet off the ground twice--once collected underneath (which horses do--a single 'suspension' event) PLUS with the front forward/rear back looking more like the old artist depictions.

    Gorgeous medal!
     
  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    They didn't know any better...that's why. Here's what a horse pulling a sulky looks like...

    harness-racing-geaugafair.jpg
     
  15. Stork

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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

  17. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Really cool medal. I love the modern update of the classic Roman motif. Here's the exact same design, 2000 years older:

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