Both coins are not the same dies. As for the coin, hard to say from that image. It could be legitimate wear combined with corrosion. The only way to know for sure is to get the coin and view it under magnification to see if casting bubbles or genuine corrosion.
Please explain, I'm curious, because I obviously can't say one way or another from the pictures. They don't look like the same dies to me (the worn coin and the one below). And I see what could very well be signs of casting, but could also turn out to be just corrosion mixed with wear. In other words, impossible to tell without actually examining the coin.
Ok, upon closer examination in a larger computer screen, the legends look like a perfect match. Leaning towards cast now, but could also be die match with corrosion. Bottom line, suspicious coin, and although I'm not ready to condemn from the pictures, it is best to avoid buying unless personally examined by competent authority in the field prior to purchase.
I was not clear in the post one is obviously authentic. The other was probably CAST from an authentic worn coin? Or a worn authentic coin and ARTIFICIALLY worn futrher?
See my post above. Seeing it in a computer screen vs initially seeing it in my phone screen made a huge difference in my opinion of the coin. LOL And now on the computer screen the legend does look soapy (a bad sign)
here is the eBay listing, http://www.ebay.com/itm/182565996204 Private listings, + other obvious fakes sold + for sale
I'm always suspicious, even though I only buy from experts and reliable dealers. That's how I've caught 2 fakes that slipped past dealers. Even the best ones can make an occasional mistake. And even then, despite my overly suspicious and paranoid nature, I wouldn't be surprised if there still was one or two fakes in my collection of 110+ coins that will slide past me and others until someone realises it sometime in the distant future.
I guess we are just wasting our time here after all the times we cover the same material. arnoldoe covered the subject rather well. The only thing left would be a certificate of inauthenticity signed by the guy who made them. Here is the question we all have to face. Sallent expresses the situation exactly as I see it. Out of 110 coins, what is a tolerable level of mistakes? One or two? OK, that seems like a lot but I would love to know which 1-2% of my coins are mistakes if there are that many. I was hoping for 0.1% but who knows??? Many people believe they are capable of a zero. Those of us who don't may have suspicious and paranoid natures or a better grasp on reality. Buying from sources that trigger arnoldoe's warning about "Private listings, + other obvious fakes sold + for sale" would make it more likely that our fake tolerance level needs to be closer to 100%.
I do the same thing with Chinese coins, though I have to take the "counterfeit until proven geuine" approach. I as well probably have fakes in my collection, but the ones I'm worried about I did not pay more than $50 for.
I'm with @TypeCoin971793 . I don't know and be suprised if I do have a fake ancient coin in my collection. I there is a fake hiding behind an authentic it likely cost me less than $30. I could give to my grandson. With first lesson to learn know what your looking at,
