Kyzikos EL MFB!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Nicholas Molinari, May 10, 2017.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Perhaps someone should mention that the $17k one was a stater and the MFB was a 1/6. IMHO the MFB was a nicer coin but size does matter on these. The coin that caught my eye in that sale was lot 361 and went for $47.5k. Needless to say I did not bid. As far as I'm concerned, that was $7500 for the gold coin and $40k for the wart on the lion's head.
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=334058

    I was outbid on the junker (three digit) coins I wanted. That was quite a sale on several levels.
     
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  3. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Yes, mine is only a 1/6 stater, I didn't intend to misrepresent! I'd prefer the forepart of man-faced bull even if 1/6th but I'm still very happy. Incidentally, a 1/12 stater of the same type as mine sold for a bit more than mine in a recent Heritage sale, so I am ok with the price overall.

    I will definitely get the screenshot when I get around to buying the big guy some day!
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    WOW! Well done!!! Very nice.
     
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  5. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    That electrum man-faced bull is lovely!

    I recently acquired a rare man-faced bull accidentally. I found this piece, unattributed (!), at Don Zauche's table at last month's Whitman expo. I collect Perseus and thought I had stumbled upon an unpublished type.

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    Sicily, Alontion. circa 241-210 BC. AE19 6.39g
    Male (?) head left wearing Phrygian helmet (Perseus or Roma?)
    Man-headed bull standing left

    I was finally able to attribute it today after many failed attempts. I had not expected a man-headed bull and thought the reverse was more likely a horse than a bull!

    The catalogs all describe the obverse as "Male head left wearing Phrygian helmet." I still suspect Perseus, or possibly Roma, is depicted.

    After seeing a few examples with clear reverses I now desire an example with water flowing from the mouth of the man-faced-bull.
     
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  6. MerlinAurelius

    MerlinAurelius Well-Known Member

    Wow nice coin~~ Never seen an electrum coins with a man faced bull before.
     
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  7. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    That is a great, and important, coin. The obverse probably features Patron Turio and the reverse, Acheloios Chydas. Here attached is the Potamikon section on Alontion. I had to white-out an error in note 48.

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  8. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Nice purchase and well worth it. Not something you see every day.
     
  9. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Great new MFB Nicholas! Will your next book include Electrum and Gold in addition to Silver? There are so many interesting MFBs in Silver but I had no idea they came in Electrum and Gold.

    John
     
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  10. dlhill132

    dlhill132 Member

    Nicholas, thats an awesome coin!

    Doug
     
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  11. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Excellent MFB! That coin has loads of eye appeal and is certainly something to be proud of.
     
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  12. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Yes.

    Potamikon II will feature silver and gold from Italy and Sicily. The main text will consider Acheloios/early MFB and his companions (mother-bird goddess, nymphs, Nike, etc.)

    Potamikon III will feature silver and gold (and electrum) from Akarnania, Asia Minor, and all remaining mints. We aren't announcing what that text will be about, but it will be revolutionary! :)

    Thank you for asking!

    Nick
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2017
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  13. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    The wife is sending provocative pics while I'm away at a conference!
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  14. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Exciting , received mine yesterday from Toscany Italy:

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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  16. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    That's a nice example. This new pic is much better. Well done!
     
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  17. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Huge congrats Nick on such a superb and super cool coin!
     
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    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

  19. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    So it turns out gold ancient coins are as awesome as other ancient coins with the added bonus of being gold!

    I might have been bit by the gold bug. This guy is amazing to behold in hand:

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  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    It's fabulous :)
     
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  21. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It definitely is amazing. The gold bug could get expensive, but they are really nice.
     
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