Think I did it!! 1983 ddo?

First, yes it was intended for educational purposes (the "for the sake of clarity" part should've suggested as much), but even if it had been meant to correct you, so what? Has this place really devolved to the point where we cannot correct each other, or allow misinformation to stand, simply because someone might be offended?

And no... there are not. The "font" used is sans serif. The only possible exception may (MAY) be is the G, but even this is a stretch.

 

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According to wexler description, it's called a " spread " ....

 

There's nothing wrong with correcting, but if you're going to correct, be right.

And since you seem to know, please tell me what font was used for these dies.

 

And since you're the one claiming to see "split serifs" where no serifs are present, perhaps you should be so kind as to follow your own advice and "be right"? Is this stupid and meaningless back and forth really what you want, especially considering there is absolutely no face lost? Had you simply taken the maybe 2-3 necessary minutes to independently confirm what was said, or simply ignored it instead of getting huffy, we wouldn't be here. How pitiful that something so innocent again has to turn into completely unnecessary nonsense.

To the best of my knowledge, there is no specific known "font" that was used, and if there was I doubt the mint would advertise it, but if you care to compare, say, to Frankin Gothic, which is sans serif, you'll see the undeniable similarities. Still, one doesn't need to know the exact "name", but only what a serif is. As a related example: simply compare IGWT on a cent to on a nickel. The former is sans serif and the latter serif.

 

I just couldn't help but find it ironic that you felt the need to correct me on a "sans serif font" when there isn't actually a font to begin with. I'm well aware of serif and I chose that word on purpose. I found your need to correct and "instruct" me on something you seem to have gotten wrong a bit insulting and hypocritical.

I'm happy to point out where I see serifs on two 1983 cents pulled randomly off the internet.

Please note the T's top (or arms) slope slightly upwards on the ends (terminals) as if they have something pushing down on them in the center.
The D in GOD curves slightly to the left at the top and bottom of the stem.
The E in WE has a slight up-curve to it on the bottom arm (and arguably at the top)
The top and bottom of the R have points on the stem (defined as serif)
The S in TRUST grows slightly larger at the bottom and also the top ends at an angle instead of straight/blocked.
The G unequivocally has serif at the top and bottom of the spur

Feel free to educate folks as you see fit; frankly I applaud and encourage it. But the reason I asked the question to begin with, is that you were clearly saying I was wrong and/or didn't know what I was talking about based on your own personal opinion. I know what I'm talking about and I respectfully disagree with you.

 

Nice early strike there ..........

 

Don't let Book get you going, he's really a nice person .
He's part of the special unit force .....

 

I'm not seeing a doubled die on the original coin posted. The 1980s zinc-plated lincoln cents were notorious for both massive plating issues and also heavy die deterioration, both which can resemble a doubled die at times.

 

And did you happen to notice how "font" was in quotation marks? Did I do that for my health, or could there have been another reason for it like, perhaps, the ease of understanding, or the hopes of not making the already very simple any more difficult for some. Case in point: you still, contrary to your claims, fail to realize what a serif is and is not. Just look at the provided examples as proof. Much of what you circles are minting anomalies are NOT serifs!

Mr. Stackowski already partially addressed this, but to expand upon it, try "notching", or just continue to grasp at straws; your call.

 

Notching (at the ends of a letter) by the very definition would be a serif. Thank you for helping me strengthen my stance and my opinion.

No need for you to be so morose. All I was pointing out was the only thing we have to go on here is our opinions. The mint has yet to remark on whether the letters have serif or not. You cannot prove the "font" is sans serif any more than I can prove it is with serif. This is a tuh-may-to, tuh-mah-to moment.

Stop trying to tell me your opinion is more correct than mine. You don't always get to be the smartest person in the room and not every moment is a teaching moment.

I've already agreed to disagree with what you continue to present as your opinion. Do you really need to keep pushing this one?

 

Thanks. I don't mind being corrected when I'm wrong. I appreciate teaching moments. And when I'm shown a convincing argument, I'm willing to listen. I just get tired of know-it-Alls who feel it is their job to correct the world when correcting doesn't need to be made. If you're going to correct me, be right about it. You can't correct an opinion, you can only disagree with it.

 

No, it isn't and in any way. What's with you? Do you even know what notching is, or that it's an artifact of the doubling and not the design, which is the case with a serif? First the complete crap about tape automatically turning a once uncirculated coin into one circulated, and now this? Notching in absolutely no way "by definition" means there are serifs on the lettering, and to suggest as much is beyond ridiculous!

I'm not the one pushing here, nor was I the one to act as if I'm beyond reproach. This isn't about "opinions", or different pronunciations, but proper terminology and fact, and to suggest as much is simple deflection.

I didn't decide to take simple link clearly posted for "clarity", for anyone reading it to do with as they see fit, and turn it into something never wished for or intended by immediately taking offense to the mere thought that anyone could be questioning me, and since have dragged this into the realm of blatant misinformation. The initial posting was something completely innocent and perfectly appropriate. If you can't handle it, I'm sorry, but that's your problem.

 

Sorry you misunderstood. I never took offense to your incessant need to correct people. I found your desire to correct me based on your opinion incorrect and unnecessary. You've yet to offer any shred of "fact" regarding the 1983 cent having a "font" or that it is in fact "sans serif" as you do ardently claim. You have merely provided your opinion, which I respectfully disagreed with. The only other thing you have provided besides an opinion is more Ad Hoc attacks. Your opinion is not a fact an it would be best if you stopped treating like it were (just like in the case of the taped nickels). Feel free to disagree with me, but stop trying to tell me that I'm wrong because of your personal opinions. Good day.

 

The "shred of fact" regarding the 1983 cent (or any others) comes from simply looking at it and understanding what a serif is. I've posted an independent link explaining just this, and have given a related example for comparison; pretty simple stuff to understand, really. If you don't like it, that's fine, yet contrary to your victim narrative, you're not wrong because I say so, but because of reality, which you refuse to accept and wish to paint as a difference of opinion. There either are serifs or there are not, but if you wish to continue with this nonsense, feel free. At least this one isn't a big deal or potentially harmful to others.

And the same goes for the taped nickels; you're not wrong because I say so, but because of reality. This was why you had a number of knowledgeable and experienced others trying to educate you on the matter, but as with here, you're more concerned with appearance than facts.

And who knew it was such a terrible thing to correct people on an educational forum, populated in large part by newbies, and those who care more about playing the part than actually knowing what they're talking about. Oh, the horror! Until next time..

Edit: not that you care, but to help further the point...

http://www.coinlink.com/News/us-coins/proof-’38-nickel-with-serif-seen/

 

Edit: this is a complete waste of my time and energy. I'm moving on and apologize to the OP for the senseless argument that ensued.

 

i'll never understand this forum.