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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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  3. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    by jove!
     
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  4. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Great idea for a thread!

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    Achaea. Sicyonia, Sicyon. Septimius Severus AE24
    2 Assaria (AE, 5.3 g, 24 mm), c. 198-205.
    Obv: Laureate head of Septimius Severus to right.
    Rev: Dionysos standing left with kantharos and thyrsus.
    Uncertain C/M

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    Mysia, Pergamon. Alliance with Ephesos. AE34 of Commodus
    Obv: laureate-headed bust of Commodus (short beard) wearing cuirass and paludamentum, r.
    Rev: to l., Asclepius standing, facing, (head, r.), holding serpent-staff; to r., cult statue of Artemis of Ephesus standing, facing, wearing kalathos, having supports.
    34mm and 20.8g.
    Howgego 70, Caracalla laureate, and reported on 114 coins from Pergamum.
    Howgego 811 meaning revalued to 6 assarii, and reported on
    32 coins from Ephesus.

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    Uncertain city, Drusus AE18. Amphora countermark
    Obv. DPOVSOS KAISAP, Juvenile head of Drusus.
    Rev. MENOFANTOY KAPAKI..., Caduceus.
    18mm and 4.2gm.

    "This coin, evidently of Asia Minor, but particularly of that part situated about the Maeander and Hermus, is probably of a place called Characa, mentioned by Strabo as situated on the road from Tralles to Nysa, and at equall distances. Stephanus speaks also of a city of Charax in Lydia, which he identifies with Tralles." J. Millingen, Sylloge of Ancient Unedited Coins of Greek Cities and Kings ... 1837, p. 79 (pl. 4, 56 (*).
    Howgego 369, amphora countermark.
     
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  5. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i've actually been after sum o dees
     
  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Wow, some very nice countermarks here. I especially like that Telesphoros. I have to wonder why there was a need for three identical countermarks on the OP, though.

    There are a bunch of marks on my Aegina turtle. The clearest is the Corinthian helmet at the bottom left. The one to the right may be a flower.
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  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    I like the dolphin mark between the legs of the slinger on this stater:

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  8. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

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    Achaemenid Empire
    Darius I to Xerxes II, 485-420 B.C.
    Sardes Mint, AR Siglos, 15.87mm x 5.6 grams
    Obv.: Persian king or hero, wearing kidaris and kandys, quiver over shoulder, in kneeling-running stance right, holding spear and bow. 1 counterstamp at position 2, Hill 35
    Rev.:
    Incuse punch. Three counterstamps: position 3, Hill type 89; position 10, Hill type 42; position 12, Hill type 58 (perhaps Cypriate or Lycian Letter)
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Hey, I forgot my turtle has a countermark.
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  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Nice marks, everyone. Here is my only banker's mark, and it matches the theme of the coin too, which is a great bonus.

    Good old Julius Caesar: JC portrait 6.jpg
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This series is a goldmine for countermarks. My favorite is the Ba'al bull
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    but the Janiform head is OK, too.
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  12. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    In the late third to early second century BC the city of Side in Pamphlia was issuing large diameter silver coins including this one:
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    32-30 mm. 16.38 grams.
    Sear Greek 5436. SNG von Aulock 4795.
    Head of Athena right in crested Corinthian helmet
    Nike advancing left holding out wreath, pomegranate in field
    Seleucid anchor countermark, supposedly applied by Antiochus IV (175-164 BC).
     
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  13. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Can I get bonus points for a countermark and a test cut?
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    PAMPHYLIA, Aspendos.
    AR Stater, 22mm, 10.78g, 12h; c. 380/75-330/25 BC.
    Obv.: Two wrestlers grappling; ΦK between, below
    Rev.: Slinger in throwing stance right; EΣTFEΔIIYΣ to left, counterclockwise triskeles of legs to right; lion countermark in lower right field.
     
  14. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

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    Countermark: head of Nike right, wings at neck, within incuse circle.

    The coin was struck for Rhodian mercenaries on Crete, circa 205-200 BC. AR Didrachm (21mm, 3.94 g, 12h). First Cretan War issue. Gorgos, magistrate?.
    Obverse: Winged head in the style of the gorgon (punning on the magistrate or the city Gortyna)
    Reverse: Rose in profile, with bud to right; ΓOPΓOΣ above, [P]-O flanking, star to lower right.
    Ashton, Crete, Issue 1; Ashton 333; SNG Keckman —; SNG Copenhagen (Caria) 864 (same dies)
    Ex Erich Karl Collection (Lanz 131, 27 November 2006), lot 809.

    Richard Ashton argues that the coin issue was likely struck by Rhodian commanders during the Cretan war (see Ashton, Clubs, pp. 77-78). It is almost never seen without countermark, so the countermark must have been applied very soon after the coin was issued.
     
  15. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I only have one countermand ancient in my collection - this as of Nero bearing a countermark for Vespasian.
    The countermark VESPA is assumed to have been applied in AD 68 in the midst of the civil war by supporters of Vespasian.
    Interestingly, none of the known examples show the c/m applied directly on Nero's bust so as to deface his portrait. Whoever applied it, they were presumably also loyal to Nero.

    I was very happy to find this coin un-attributed in a tray of low grade roman coins for 1,5 euro! Bought it for the nice bust thinking the c/m was actually damage.
    The c/m was an additional benefit I found out about later:).

    Nero Victory As - Countermark - Obv - 1.jpg Nero Victory As - Countermark - close up - 1.jpg Nero Victory As - Countermark - Rev - 1.jpg
     
  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Top-marks for everybody's examples!!

    Ummm, I have a whole lotta "marks" ... wanna see some of 'em?

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    Sicily Akragas AE Counterstamp.jpg Troas Abydos AE Counterstamps.jpg Seleukid Kingdom Antiochos I.jpg Lycia Termessor Bee Counterstamp.jpg Pamphylia Gallienus.jpg Tiberius Counterstamp.jpg Kings of Borp Eagle counterstamp.jpg Pamphylia Perge Countermark.jpg
     
  17. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    BITHYNIA Koinon of Bithynia Hadrian AE 33 Octastyle temple

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  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ... a few more ...

    Cilicia Ninica-Claudiopolis.jpg syracuse heraclius countermark 2.jpg Heraclius Countermark II.jpg

    Ummm, and here is a banker's mark (close enough?)

    running man a.jpg running man b.jpg

    Oh, and can I also include Overstrikes, or is that pushin' it?



    Boeotia Federal Coinage Overstrike.jpg Anonymous Overstruck AE Triens.jpg


    :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    ... two of my favourites
     
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  19. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    the OP coin has 4 marks :D on cheek, not sure its the same cm?
     
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  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I don't have many countermarked coins but since I have Howgego's book, it seems only right that I should buy more :D.

    Here's one I really really really wanted a couple of years ago but despite bidding far higher than my planned max, I lost. (I picked up some other very sweet coins in that auction so it was okay :)).

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    Gortyna drachm

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  21. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    great CM's on silver they some out so much better in details
     
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