Tiny Ol' Moesia

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Smojo, Apr 30, 2017.

  1. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    These tiny coins, well tiny coins in general have fascinated me. The amount of detail the engravers were able to put into them at such an era some people would think impossible.
    This coin however I've seen in Drachms but not in an obol.
    Since this is another first I've seen of its kind when I saw it I just had to have it.
    Some of you may recognize this coin.

    Moesia,Istros-sea eagle[SNG BM250].jpg
    Moesia, Istros
    AR Trihemiobol 10mm, 1.1g.
    380/350-330/280BC
    Facing male heads, the right inverted
    IΣTPIH
    Sea-eagle grasping dolphin with talons
    SNG BM 250

    And feel free to comment and PILE ON :) :D :cool:
     
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  3. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Nice score! Never knew that type came so small. Here's my latest small coin purchase :

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    Aiolis, Gryneion
    AE11, 1.3g, 12h; 3rd Century BC.
    Obv.: Laureate head of Apollo, 3/4 facing left.
    Rev.: ΓYP-NH; Mussel shell.
    Reference: SNG Ashmolean 1447–8; SNG Copenhagen 205–6.
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    They come in a range of sizes but the large and popular drachms are more common. The good thing is more and more dealers are realizing that there is a market for small coins. Not all that long ago many only would sell tetradrachms and considered drachms 'small silver'.
    0.3g
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    0.8g
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    I am less than certain how accurate it is to force Athenian names on the coins but it does seem that our coin is roughly the same weight as my two combined so we can be forgiven calling them hemiobol, obol and trihemiobol. The drachms (no more accurate a name IMO but what we call them) tend to weigh a bit over 5g and 6x my 0.8g 'obol' is a bit under what we might expect. What I'm saying here is I have not studied this in depth and I do not know if anyone has. There is a big difference between numismatic scholarship and copying down names from a coin catalog. Perhaps if weighed a thousand of them and looked hard at the results, we might see a pattern but proving how their system worked and what names they applied to the coins will be harder.

    For the record: they come in fourree and barbarous, too. Nothing seems easy.
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    I do love this type.
     
  5. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice pickup @Smojo. The version of your coin has eluded me so far, but I keep hunting fro the right one at the right price.

    THRACE, ISTROS.jpg
    THRACE, ISTROS
    AR Drachm
    OBVERSE: Facing male heads, the left inverted (Polydeuces Castor and Pollucs (AKA Dioskuri)
    REVERSE: Sea-eagle left, grasping dolphin with talons; ISTRIH above, Q between wing and tail, K beneath dolphin
    Struck at Istros, 400-300BC
    5.3g, 19mm
    AMNG 434
     
  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Nice catch, Smojo at first I thought it was bronze because of the green patina ?

    Heres my Moesia Istros:

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  8. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Lol, I don't alaways take the best photos, but when I do!!!!!!
    Here's the seller pics.
    Now everyone is thinking, where have I seen this pic before? :D
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  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Smojo => congrats on that super-cool OP-score ... it's a total winner!

    Ummm, I have an example ... wanna see it?


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    cheers, coin-bro

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