Carl: Quit bragging, we have more cars stolen in NYC than you do-- and we are more proud of it than youse guys.
You nailed that one. I actually did once lock a guy IN THE STORE. I was behind glass and had armed security. I let him in but not out - the Gary, IN police did that in cuffs of course. It was really amusing when he ran for the door and bounced off I must admit. As for youse guys I agree - stop bragging. I live on the border of Gary, IN and they routinely have the highest per capita murder rate in the country. A sick society at times isn't it? Scary thing is that the two shops I do most business with are not locked, there are no buzzers and no armed security. The one owner does carry a gun though and is not afraid to display it.
The coin store I frequent most often has the buzz-in at the door. There's one accross the street that doesn't. The difference is, the locked one is high end, the other a small mom&pop place. The one I like in Vegas has several armed guards wandering around. But, fi you could see whats in the store at any one time, it's understandable. The most bizarre coin store I ever visited was in Boston, on Church St I believe. Nice place, lots of expensive coins...and no lock, bars on windows, or security. So, I guess I don't know why some need it and others don't. Guy~
not locked. Well my store isn't locked, I've been in stores where they are. You shouldn't feel offended by this practice as there are safety concerns for the owner and yourself a a client. Also several have private security police on guard in their lobby. Again safe for both. You'll not have to do much research to learn that the small soleproprietor type coin stores are getting fewer and fewer. Is crime a reason? You put yourself in their shoes .... a million in gold and silver in your store safe..... a wife and kids at home you wanna get to at closing time. Let em lock the doors and be safe. Brian
I've never been to a coin shop thats been locked or you have to buzz in or whatever. Of course, I live in a small town but even small towns have their share of crime but rarely any armed robberies here. A few shoplifters at Wal-Mart maybe but thats about it. Acanthite, I'm originally from Long Beach, CA and I have seen the lower end strip malls that you mentioned and can see why they're locked and barred. I went back to Long Beach a few years ago and the parts of town that used to be nice arent so nice anymore. Its a shame.
In reality I don't think there will to many coin stores or shops in the near future. It is way to easy to just go to a coin show every weekend. I've met a few dealers that used to have a store but now find between the internet and coin shows, there is way more money to be made and very little overhead. At a coin store you have to sit and wait for customers but at a coin show there are many, many customers there. Of course there is compitition, but still can't beat hundreds or even thousands of potential customers. This is true of many other items also. One person I know used to have a photo studio and camera store. He gave that up and now uses ebay exclusively. He to said little to know overhead and much more profit. I'm afrain coin stores will soon be a thing of the past. Remember a store has electric, gas, water, phone bills, Insurances, possibly a helper. Maintenance on the store and of course the possible security being mentioned here. Of course in some areas there are few coin shows but ebay and web sites compensate for that. In this area we have a constant 3 coin shows a month and all within several miles. Occationally some additional larger ones also. At a coin show a dealer rents a table, comes in, goes out and that is that. So between those and the internet, why ever bother with a store.
You can call it that Carl. Indiana leased their toll roads out. Want to buy Gary outright? There are some pretty nice neighborhoods mixed in there. Just like Chitown!
Maybe if you live in the Northeast. Here in the West, there may be a coin show every week somewhere, but chances are you'll have to spend a day or two driving to get to one. I don't see an end to them here. Guy~
Hope you know I'm kidding. We all need a few great football teams anyway. Are you going to the Countryside, Illinois coin show on Sept. 6, 7, 8 and 9. If so I'll bet there probably on Freday, Saturday and Sunday. It you can make it, you buy the coffee.
Yeah, I knew you were kidding Carl. Actually in this neck of the woods we're tighter with Chicago than our own state capital. Was rooting for the Bears last Superbowl. On the other hand, when I go out of state with my Indiana plates I can tell people I'm a huge Colts fan! LOL. Got a card in the mail about the show but can't attend I'm afraid. Vehicle problems that hit my wallet for $400 yesterday and it still isn't running right. It really stinks when you have to spend valuable coin money on stinking transportation.
Sorry to hear that clembo. Meanwhile back at the topic. This morning myself and friend went to the South side of Chicago since he heard of a great pawn shop that has coins. Once in the area, noticed boarded up windows, barred windows and doors, lots of people staring at us, we thought possibly such a store may or may not have the doors locked but not in our near future to find out. Stopped in a few pawn shops on the way back. One was kind of funny. Barred windows, doors and press a bell to get in. Once inside a guy that looked out of place said "yeah, what the ...... do you want?" I don't think he knew good sales concepts. Due to this post I was attempting to find places that did not have locked doors. I think I'll just believe those that have them and let sleeping dogs lie. That is an old expression meaning basically just that.
I understand why one would lock peole in or out When I approach the local coin shop with a friend I hear a click before I get to the door. The owner & his wife (I think) stop what they're doing and welcome & access the situation, as they should. I have been there 4 times and he probably knows my face. Only once had 2 or us been admitted when there was another man in there browsing. I don't think he'd let 5 or 6 people in at one time as he coluldn't watch each of them carefully enough. He's got 10's of thousands of dollars in displayed coin and bullion to protect. He and his wife could possibly be distracted and something could happen. Then again his small place would get too crowed if more people came.I'm assuming he has potent protection at his disposal. But the controling of patron is a wise move. Better to prevent a bad situation than being part of one. Bruce
Nowadays, in Singapore, we seldom heard about goldsmith shop or pawn shop being robbed. Most of the time, robbery are done by foreigners in Singapore. In fact, the foreigners did not know the Singapore laws very well. In Singapore, if you are in possession of a gun, you will be given a death sentence. Death sentences help to mininize crime rate. It is safe to walk along the Singapore streets in the night even if you are a lady walking alone or coming back from office, pub etc. When I was in USA for our honeymoon, my wife and I crosses the street from our hotel toward a fast-food chain. Just before reaching the other side of the road, a man came over to us and pointed his finger to my wallet. We quickly ran into the fast food chain leaving the man still rooted on the spot. Obviously, he wanted money from me. Maybe it is time for USA to examine the relationship between crime rates and the death sentences. Gun control is another important issue. With so many of these licensed guns falling into wrong hands, many innocent life will be at risk. hya: