I just bought this Henry II Tealby Penny but don't have it in hand yet. For those not familiar these are usually poorly struck. This is considered pretty decent for the type. So far I have it as Bust Type C1 with an obverse legend of hENRI:R:AN I am having real trouble with the reverse considering there is quite a bit to work with. I think it should read RODBERT:ON:LVN for London mint. What do you guys think?
Likely Ricart (Ricard) of Canterbury, known for the Tealby type (despite the odd initial mint letter, looks more like an S than a C but maybe a re-cut die?)
I appreciate your help and experience. I'm still learning how to piece together the broken legends and there are so many combinations. That strange letter after ON threw me off for sure. I was going between an S and an L but I acan see where it probably a C made up of straight line punches that just went wrong. I was hoping I had some new mint or something. Lol
Very nice, Alde! I still need both a teal by and short cross of HII. I agree with Kiaora - Ricart on Canterbury
To add another voice to the choir, it's most likely Canterbury. C1 for sure, the many folds on the arm are a dead giveaway. By class C Canterbury dominated production while London production had fallen off. A really good book on Tealby coinage is D F Allen - The Cross and Crosslet Type of Henry II. The real ugly Tealby coins are class A, when the coinage of Stephen was re-struck all over the country.
Thank you for the additional confirmation and added information. I'm pretty happy to have gotten the classification right. For references I have English Hammered Coinage vol.1 and 2 by North, A History of Medieval Coinage in England by Richard Kelleber and the Spink book that comes out every year. I also have Stewartby, Lord: English Coins 1180-1551 and Wren, The Short Cross Coinage 1180-1247 on the way from Charles Davis on Vcoins. It's probably too many references for a beginner but I love the books too.
How is Stewartby's book? I'll admit to being rather unimpressed by North considering he's viewed as the major reference for English hammered Coins...
I don't have it yet. It was ordered early in the week and should be here next week. I will be happy to give you my impression when I get it though.
Please do, I would also like to hear how it is. In my humble opinion there is just no such thing as two many references, well read is well prepared. If you are thinking of collecting the late Plantagenets or Yorks/Lancasters I would recommend Ivan Buck's Medieval a English Groats. Anyways, welcome to medieval English coins.
Thanks FitzNigel. I found your post on the Anarchy a few days ago, which was a great write up by the way, and couldn't believe I missed this place.
I will be happy to let you guys know how the book is once I get it. Just keep in mind that it will just be the impressions of a newbie to English Hammered coins. I also agree that there is no such thing as too many references. It's nice that some of the books hold their value pretty well too.
