"window wrap" what does that mean?

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  1. tommypski

    tommypski Coinaholic

    I always see rolls on ebay that they call "window wrap" What does that mean? Thanks
     
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  3. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Not having seen that term used (cuz I don't scour ebay like I used to) I'm going out on a limb.

    Perhaps a Brinks rolled type of roll? Clear plasitic.
     
  4. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    some rolls that you get from the bank are not paper wrapped but wrapped in clear plastic where you can see the edges.
     
  5. tommypski

    tommypski Coinaholic

  6. tommypski

    tommypski Coinaholic

    Here is the reply i got from the seller : "The wrapper has two windows to show the denomination of the coins inside, it can be used for all demnominations of coins"

    I am still confused. I don't see any "windows" on this roll. Is he refering to the two opened ends?

    I should add that i do not plan on buying any of these rolls, i was just curious. Also i am not looking to pick this seller apart for any reason, i have bought somthing from him before and is a good seller.
     
  7. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    An innovative bit of advertising hokum for what are commonly referred to as "shotgun" rolls due to their double-ended resemblance to shotgun shell wadding ends.

    It's much more believable to me that he arranged for the tails/tails wrapping to conceal the dates rather than credit union employees on their own decideing to flip over any visible heads before hand crimping the rolls. Shotgun rolls are normally sold with one end already machine crimped, but the pictures clearly show the crimping typical of the little black plastic hand crimpers sold by H.F. String.
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    strange, and another eBay first!
    Non-descriptive descriptions.
     
  9. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    That is strange. My bank teller refers to the clear plactic rolls as window wrapped (vs paper wrapped). It takes all the fun out of searching dimes and quarters when you can quickly scan the edges ...lol.
     
  10. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    I have some of these wrappers at home, I'll post a photo of them later. Never heard them called this before, but basically, they come not in a tube but as a 4" x 8" flat sheet, and because they're not a tube you can roll any denomination. So, you take your 50 cents or 40 quarters or whatever, place them across the short dimension and proceed to roll the paper around it.

    When you finish, some types have a gum adhesive (like an envelope) you can use to glue it shut. Because all of our denominations have different sizes of diameters, the exact number of times it needs to be wrapped around the coins is different for every denomination. On the end there are two little windows cut, and on the back is printed denomination and value information, which then shows differently for each denomination.
     
  11. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    Took a few days longer than I thought, but here are the images. The first is of the wrapper itself, the second is with halves inside it, which you can see aligns the red windows on the "$10" in "50c" printing.
     

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  12. SapperNurse

    SapperNurse DOD enhanced

    Wow...I had never seen coin wrappers like that before.....

    I think those are actually pretty cool
     
  13. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    Yeah, they are pretty neat. When I first got them from a bank on rolls of halves, I had visions of walkers, barbers, etc. especially since they have the words "Patented May 31, 1921" on them. Alas, the fact that they have a mark for SBA dollars ($25, $1) means they're no older than about 1978.
     
  14. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    Wow, that wrapper has, $1-$20 on it. It was in use when gold was around!
     
  15. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    Although the patent date puts it within gold usage, actually the $20 in $1 refers to dollar coins, i.e. 20 Ikes (or Peace or Morgans) in a roll.
     
  16. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    As to window wrap, I've never heard that term used for the plastic type roll covers. They are fairly common around here by me and usually just called rolls in plastic, clear plastic covers, etc. See them a lot. Never gave it a thought though as to where they come from. Not sure if it's all from one company or many. From what I've seen in stores, usually that is the cent ones mostly. For sure not from the Mint since many are various ages of coins.
     
  17. Hi everyone :) I know I am 10 years too late LOL to reply, but I just wanted to let everyone know, these "window trap rolls" are not a hoax as some people have said above. They are legit coin rolls, but instead of a traditional tube, they come flat, and you can roll SEVEN different types of coins in them, and no matter what you roll, the pre-printed denominations ON the wrapper roll, will then appear in a cut-out "window", which tells the viewer exactly what's inside. I came into a private stash of these about 3 years ago, over 10,000 of them, and I sell them in my store on eBay in lots of 20. People LOVE them once they get theirs!! And, for anyone who hasn't used them before, I always send a few extras so they can practice :) The wrappers I acquired roll 1¢, 5¢, 10¢, 25¢, 50¢, $1.00 coins AND $2.00 coins. If anyone here would like to see what a "Window Trap Roll" actually IS, let me know and I can post my listing here for you to see them. There were only 3 printers in the ENTIRE world that made these, 2 were in the USA, and one was in Canada. The printer in Canada was the last to survive and closed its doors in 1962. The two printers that were in the USA, one closed its doors in 1947 and the other one stopped printing the window trap rolls in 1952, but didn't close its business until 1964.
    I hope this helps :)
     
  18. Here are a few photos of the "window trap" wrappers. All of mine were still factory sealed and had the "Print Date" on each box. The dates varied from September of 1939, all the way up to July of 1951. That said, I believe they were printed from one of two printers located in the USA that were responsible for making these. As mentioned in my previous comment, there were only 3 printers in the world that made these, one was located in Canada. Anyways, here are a few photos for you, so you can see what they look like. They DO take some getting used to, but, people who've bought them from me, have told me that their overall sales of rolls that are wrapped in THESE, have GREATLY improved. If anyone has any questions about them, feel free to reply :)
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  19. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I don't see how these could have been printed before 1996, since they accommodate the Canadian $2 coin. They are cool, though.
     
  20. That was something that I immediately caught as well, however, with them having been still sealed, and with a proper "print date" on them, it is perplexing indeed.
     
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