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And some of the things you say I agree with you (but). When it comes to coin terminology on CT we have members that push it way too far.
And all that manages to do is to discourage new members from staying and learning more. Example. You don't know how many men have come up to me and asked me to teach their wife how to shoot, because wives have a natural tendency not to listen to their husbands. And all they end up in is a fight.

It is quite obvious we have a lot of trolls out there that are coming back to seek their revenge. But then again we have a lot of new members who are not trolls and want to start learning.
If you haven't noticed it a troll will mess up eventually. And someone that is new basically all they want to know is what's happening with the coin they are showing and how much it is worth.
In this case some members tend to push these members farther than they want to go at the time.Give them time and if they want to learn they will learn at their own time and pace.USMC60 PS
And as far as coin terminology I personally disagree with a lot of it and feel a lot of it should be changed to reflect the time that were living in. Most of the coin terminology that was thought up through the years in the beginning and documented by a lot of experts.
Is still being used today. Just because a bunch of experts set down and said well were going to call it this, and decided to write a book. So if it's written down it is the law.
Personally I say BS. Look what's happen in the last 30 years, animals thought to be extinct have been found. Columbus did not discover America first. And poor little Pluto is no longer a planet. If you can't tell I'm out for change. And if you don't believe me go to my first thread snow on the roof. I personally still believe in a lot of what I was saying there, but I got tired of fighting about it.

 

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As with any group, some members are more helpful than others. I understand that there may be new members that are alienated and don’t return, but I also see newer members, who have picked up a lot of knowledge (based the types of questions they ask and their responses to others). When I respond to an obvious hobby newbie, I try to start out with “Sorry, but your coins is …… and has no value”. I’ve also noticed in many instances where someone has been obviously condescending to a genuinely new member (not you Rare-Tim), others have jumped in to be helpful.

BTW: Even though paddyman98’s response is terse, the links are a great resource for new collectors. If his response is so offensive that they become discouraged, then maybe it’s for the best IMO.

 

Here is a nice example regarding changing some terminology that's happening on CT right now.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-campgate-a-call-for-a-cultural-history.295150/

To be fair, this debate has been going on for sometime, but I don't see anyone saying we should change the names just because Mattingly, Kent, Syndenham, and the other experts wrote something 75 years and times have changed.

 

My friend in some cases you're absolutely right. But please if you will look at this thread
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/homestead-quarter-error.293956/
This is one of the best examples I can make. If you do not know what's going on in someone's life please do not make judgments. There is a reason sometimes why people are the way they are. And unfortunately we have no control over our disabilities.

And when you grow up with the scorn and ridicule and teasing and bullying by people who are very insensitive, you have a tendency to cop an attitude and be very defensive.

Take a little time and learn about someone before you make a judgment. Like I said if you read that thread it will give you an understanding of what I'm trying to say.


And yes we do have some very good members on CT who will go out of their way to help you if you let them. But like in everything there is good there's bad. USMC60 PS
That is why I suggest you read my first thread snow on the roof. When I first came to CT a lot of members were very helpful by giving me all these links to go to.
Most of that information I read over 16 years ago and has not changed. I personally do not agree with a lot of things that I've read back then, and still do not agree with them today. But that is my choice. And of all the members on CT will remember That human beings were given the choice of free will to believe in what they want to believe In are not to believe in. What you choose to believe in is a road you choose to travel. And do not ridicule others that they do not wish to walk the same road you walk.
(Because we all have free will, and we have the right to choose what we wish to believe in)

 

All I know is... If I roll a double die 3 times, I end up in monopoly jail. If I roll a doubled die 3 times, one of you guys will probably beat the crap out of me. wakka wakka

 

I will partially agree with what you're saying. But let me give you this example, last month I was reading a thread. And the members were telling this newbie what he had was a grease fill die coin. I noticed on that newbie's response to a reply that he received about grease fill die, he would start looking for grease on coins.

I am glad to see there is change starting to be made by a lot of the grading services.
They tend to be moving away from the saying grease fill, to what it should be debris filled. Which even covers that little bit fluid that may be holding the debris together. I would say 99% of this debris Is held together by some sort of substance which is undetermined.
Now I asked you this question do you want someone who is new to coin collecting to be looking for a coin with grease. Or would you prefer explain in it like it really is and is a Accumulation of all the debris that comes down the line and get stuck in the die. You seem to be a very intelligent member what your opinion.

 

I agree (I remember reading the thread at the time). Sometimes tradition is hard to break, but I can see this changing at some point in the future. The logic makes too much sense.

 

Thank you.I appreciate you at least responding.As an instructor for over 30 years I will totally agree the basics that are establish do have a purpose. But like life there are changes and amendments to be made as time moves on. USMC60

 

As long as the changes can be backed up with facts and logic, then it makes sense, like the ancient campgate or grease filled die discussion. Changing established terminology because someone personally disagrees or doesn't think it reflects the current times is not a good reason, IMO.

 

As a collector of error coins i have never liked the term "grease filled die" as the term is drastically inadequate. A more accurate terminology would be "struck through debris" especially since the current presses use much less grease than they did thirty years ago. Even when they used more grease it was never pure grease that clogged the dies but an accumulation of grease that had lint, dirt, metal filings and other debris stuck within it.

 

Oldhoopster If I may say we have a good discussion going on but it it should not be on this thread.In consideration for the op. USMC60