Does toning/dirty affect grade much?

Found these two today tucked away in a book. Details are perfect and fields look great IMO, but the coloring on them seems like it'd kill the value and the grade. Opinions anyone?

 

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the grade does not change, but perceived value drops. I would go for a eye appealing coin over an ugly toning coin. IMO.

 

Would be interested in hearing opinions on an acetone bath for these.

 

Agreed. To me, something bout the sparkle and reflection of a good PL coin is mesmerizing lol

 

It affects the market grade. That just means how cool or not it is to the market as adjudged by the grader.

 

I would too. Would be fun to do and see the difference. But then again, would it be worth it ya know

 

It depends on what's on there. Acetone I doubt is going to harm those, it may even loosen some stuff off.

 

These aren't the "coolest" looking ones I've seen by any means. I see what you mean though, thank you

 

If soaked in acetone, would that make them become "cleaned, improperly cleaned, etc?"

 

I can't tell from the pictures whether they're mint state, but they're good, high technical grades.

No, acetone will just loosen things up a little. Don't be rubbing them, now. They have nice, natural skin. You don't want to disturb that.

 

I doubt acetone would do much of anything to them. Acetone on its' own won't make them become "cleaned," unless they looked like it did afterward.

If this color is due to natural silver tarnishing processes, and that's what I think it is, acetone won't touch it. Acetone will only remove organic contamination. If that's some of what's on the coins, and the acetone removes it, the result might be surfaces previously covered in organic matter which haven't naturally "aged" like the surrounding metal did, and the result will be a coin which looks "cleaned."

 

Depends on how the toning makes the coin look. Sometimes toning gives a coin negative eye appeal, which will affect value... sometimes it turns an otherwise blase' coin into a stunner.

 

Gotcha. I may give em a little soak, and I'll be sure not to rub them if I do. Thanks for the info

 

Good point. The coloring seems to be just that, coloring. Doesn't seem to be any "raised" parts like gunk or buildup

 

I would subject both of those to an MS70 cleaning.

Perfect situation for that.

 

Acetone will never harm the coin.... it may reveal something covered by deposits, but will never touch the metal. Also, acetone will not remove true tarnish.

 

So in essence, you're saying there's a market for both, character and luster, Enough so to simply leave them be?

 

I'm not quite sure that coin, at least compared to what we usually see here, could rightly be considered "blase'", but fine point nonetheless.