Good Experience: Kayser-i Rum Numismatics

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Gavin Richardson, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    It seems we are inclined to post when we’ve had a bad consumer experience. Let me briefly share a positive one.

    Saturday before last, I decided to treat myself to a little late-night snack. So I ordered a Constantine LRB reverse type featuring a single solider and the GLORIA EXERCITUS legend–a scarcer issue of Constantine. The price was right (ca. 30 euros) and it had a nice patina. I think it was about $40 shipped from Frankfurt, Germany.

    So 9 days later the coin shows up, along with a brief hand-written note from the dealer, Burak Cebeci of Kayser-i Rum Numismatics, thanking me for the purchase.

    I don’t know what this dealer’s rep is, or whether members have had good or bad experiences with him. But I thought this was a nice gesture for a first-time buyer making a very modest purchase.

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It's always nice to have a positive experience with a dealer like this. And now that you shared it with us, I at least will take a look at his wares. Thanks for posting.
     
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  4. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    yes, nice coin with good customer relations give him an A++
     
  5. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I really like stories like this one. I always like to get a short handwritten note with my purchase-it adds a nice personal touch. I will also take a look at his store.
     
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  6. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Yeah, nice touch. I often find it nice whenever they send a note, sometimes they even write it in spanish! Kind and simple acts like these makes me return to their e-stores over and over (besides their good stuff, of course).
     
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  7. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I bought from this seller a few weeks ago and can back Gavin's positive review of him. He also offered to keep an eye out for anything I was looking for which was nice as well.
     
  8. Nyatii

    Nyatii I like running w/scissors. Makes me feel dangerous

    I have a story as well. I made another purchase from Victor Clark/Victor's Imperial Coins, who started me off with my 1st Ancient coins. He wrote a nice note and included a Constantine coin to keep my Licinius coins company. He even included the holders and ID cards.

    Over and above the generosity, it is such acts that set a person or business apart from the average. Just the time and thought put into appreciating the business you have sent them, shows the high class they have.

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  9. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    well, looky there @Victor_Clark, good turns for good deeds:)
     
  10. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I too am a recipient of a "bonus" coin on an order from Victor. But maybe I should keep that under my hat, because now everybody is going to start expecting one! :joyful:

    Yes, Victor is another dealer I've had good experiences with. People remember good customer service and the dealers who really care about cultivating a broader interest in ancients.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Thank you for the post. I'm currently slacking off on buying things I don't absolutely have to have from overseas (I have too many coins and have had too many troubling experiences from Europe lately) or I would have bought a couple. Price is one consideration but more important is being treated like a customer rather than a patsy. It is good to hear there are new sources with old business etiquette.
     
  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Yeah, even just a"thank you" on the invoice is nice. Heres a freebie I got from bargain bin ancients recently
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  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    BITE YOUR TONGUE!!! :)
     
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  14. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    It really is nice when dealers are both accessible and nice. It's weird, the way some act you would think that they didn't want any money.
     
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  15. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    A few plugs as well: Curtis Clay at HJB, Josh Moran of Civitas Galleries, Kenn Hollister of Moneta Numismatics, Mark Reid of The Time Machine. Hussam Zurqieh of Zurqieh. Annnnnd now I need to look at stuff to buy.
     
  16. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Well, I want to keep this thread positive and non-actionable. :D. But since some novice collectors might come to this thread for recommendations, it probably should be noted that one of the dealers listed above pretty obviously applies spray-tan "desert" patinas to many of his coins and was at the center of a famous "lost" coin dispute about ten years ago. (The dealer was not Clay, Moran, Hollister, or Reid.)

    With that having been said, I have bought coins from this dealer and have had good experiences with him, and I will likely buy from him in the future. I hope none of us is defined by our worst moment, and I hope that the experience I referenced years ago has prompted better business practices. But as far as the patinas go, caveat emptor.

    I also hope I'm not out of line here. I really want to "seek the good, and praise it." But I felt something needed to be said for those unaware of concerns.

    EDIT: I did buy a Domitian "Judea Capta" provincial bronze from this dealer in part because of the eye-popping desert patina before I realized it was almost certainly sprayed on. I was still happy to have the coin at the price, but I guess I need to qualify my "good" experience to note that, essentially, I was deceived by the unnaturally altered appearance of the coin, and such an "enhancement," for most collectors, probably crosses the line.
     
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  17. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    Well I heard of the concerns too. I have never tried to scrape my coins to see if it is sand added or paint (God, I really hope not). I've bought some silver coins from him with no concerns.

    I dunno. Maybe I am naive. When a friend warned me about his suspicions I did soak a coin in water and then alcohol to see if anything came off of the coin. Mind you I know that I am only buying $10 AE's in many cases. But I don't like to be deceived either. After soaking the coins overnight in each I saw no change or smudging when I took the test coin out of the liquids. So maybe I'm doing it wrong or maybe it is okay now. I dunno. But I've bought about forty coins there and figured I owed it to myself to test the most recent. All within the last four years of ancient collecting. I admit to being relieved when there was no change. But I wasn't anxious to go testing every coin either.

    Now I feel weird.
     
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  18. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    No weirdness necessary. Ultimately, each of us is responsible for our own experience. And like I said, I will probably purchase from this store again. But I do so with a greater awareness and personal assumption of risk.
     
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  19. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Don't think I've ever heard of this but it sounds interesting. What was the coin and what happened?
     
  20. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    The original FORVM post has been removed but you can read about what happened here.
     
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  21. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    Well what a train wreck that was, at the beginning at least. Nice to see the right result come about. As for Zurqieh well I guess it gives me pause.

    Also, it is funny how when I went to look up Richard's post the website didn't exist anymore. Funny how people can think we don't need books anymore.
     
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