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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Seattlite86, Apr 12, 2017.

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What would you give as eBay feedback?

  1. No feedback

    37.9%
  2. Negative feedback

    37.9%
  3. Neutral feedback

    13.8%
  4. Positive feedback

    10.3%
  1. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    I do not buy or sell on Ebay.
    I have not even gone on ebay for years. It is not a place I enjoy.
    I guess we all are entitled to our own opinion. If I am guilty of vindictiveness there are several here along with me, just look at the poll.
     
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  3. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    10 votes for giving a negative.
    One for a positive. 3 votes for neutral. 10 votes for no feedback.
    Why are you protecting this seller?
     
  4. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    So you want to block me from eBay? Now who's being vindictive? Good luck with that, I have not placed a bid on eBay for 8 years.
     
  5. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Then maybe you shouldn't have replied to this thread in the first place. "I am not an expert, but..."

    I would let it pass as the guy is a new eBay seller and not the shop owner of a retail store. There's a big difference...

    By the way, I am on Tapatalk and don't even see an option to vote... positive +1 with a remark about the seller's unprofessional reply and poor packaging.


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    Last edited: Apr 15, 2017
  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Perhaps the bigger question is why you wish to literally destroy someone's ability to sell over NOTHING?

    How many times have we had a member post some horrible story about how someone did some terrible thing to them, and half the board jumps in to console them before the truth comes out? Remember Detecto and his weekly "pity me" screws, or Leeroy destroying a perfectly good seller's feedback over something that was entirely his own fault? The fact is half the board will believe whatever said to them when it comes to a member vs. nameless seller, and has been proven more times than I care to remember. I'm certainly not suggesting the OP is up to anything, but when getting only one side of the story, it's only reasonable to take it with a grain of salt, especially when their very words often lead to more questions than answers. How sad that you construe a logical approach with "protecting" a seller, particularly when your own approach is based on nothing but pure irrational emotion.
     
  7. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    Oh, now it's pure irrational emotion? Horse puckey.
    Look, when a seller blows me off and says he does not have time for me he gets a negative. You can beat this dead horse all you want it does not change the fact of how the seller handled communication.
     
  8. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    I just purchased a camera part from China. I sent a message asking the seller if they knew any more information on average shipping time and received a fairly curt reply. I took the texture of the message with a grain of salt since English obviously is not his first language and I don't speak a lick of Mandarin. There's really no way for me to know how my message appeared to him after translation, nor how they intended their message to come across.

    I also sent a message to another seller, after they were 2 days late getting the package to the post office, with no response. I was hoping they would just say, "sorry" or something. I don't really want to give them a bad rating mark, but they aren't really leaving me an option. I would be lying if I said the item arrived on schedule.

    Basically, yeah... communication sucked, but at least it existed.
     
  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Yet again you completely ignore the buyer's part in this. Why? Why do you place all blame on the seller, and feel destroying his account perfectly fine, when you can't even be bothered to question why the buyer decided to BS him? This is key....

    In post #1 the OP says....

    "I knew none of the silver coins were uncirculated."

    Yet in post #34 says...

    "When I asked why he did it and told him a coin is no longer UNC when it is taped, he got hostile."

    So just to be clear, you see no potential problems with this, and think it perfectly fine for buyers to play games, but when a seller responds in kind, well, we can't have that? And this is aside from the fact it, AGAIN, was a $5 purchase at less than scrap! Come on!
     
  10. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    I don't see why you continue to argue. I'm not concerned with what the buyer did and never was. I'm not giving the buyer feedback here.
    So keep up your badgering, you are talking to the wind.
     
  11. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Where did you come up with the idea that I was playing games? You are overstepping in your personal account of this scenario and inadvertently insulting me. All I did was ask him why he chose to tape everything down and explain to him that a taped coin is no longer uncirculated. I'm not posting his response here because it was a private message and I find that to be a breach of trust. I shared it in private with @micbraun who read the response in its entirety and concurred that his response was rather flippant. The focus of my thread was the fact that the seller was rude when questioned about his poor packaging choices. He simply could've said "I didn't know better" and we could've moved on with him knowing not to tape coins. I was really trying to surmise if he intentionally sabotaged the package because he was mad at the low sale and took it out on me. It is not my fault my bid was the winner and I deserve to be treated with respect and not have coins come taped simply because the seller is unhappy.
     
  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    And that's your problem; you're so focused on needless pettiness that you can't see the forest through the trees.
     
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    And you're still holding fast to something you are wrong about. Again, tape does NOT automatically mean a coin is no longer unc. Of course this doesn't matter because you admitted to knowing the coin wasn't unc to begin with, yet still felt the need to confront him over something you knew wasn't true. This, with all due respect, is playing games.
     
  14. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    BooksB4Coins: You are the one with a problem I think.
    You can't give this up. Your arguement is invalid. My vote is cast and now it is none of your business.
     
  15. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    If you really think coins with tape and tape residue on them are still uncirculated, I have a bunch of coins to sell you :)

    The fact that you're not even willing to consider that the seller intentionally sabotaged the packaging because he was mad about the raw deal tells me you're not going to hear anything I say. I'm done speaking with you on this thread. If you think a seller deserves positive feedback after intentionally trying to damage coins, then perhaps it is you who cannot see through the trees.

    Good day.
     
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  16. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    Right on Seattlite. Some people think they are the opinion police.
    Nobody can have an opinion that differs with them.
     
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  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Sorry but you are wrong on this. Tape does not turn a coin from unc to circ. The seller is guilty of being stupid, that's for sure. I'm thinking his feedback rating is 8 positive. He is new as a seller. I still don't know if he was rude based on what has been posted in this thread. I would have to see what both of you said. With out that, everyone here is guessing. I voted no feedback based on the little information that has been given.
     
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  18. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    How can I be wrong? All I said was if you think a coin with tape residue is uncirculated, then I have a bunch of coins to sell you. I'm happy to sell them to you too as UNC coins :)
     
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  19. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    For the record, the responses were overwhelmingly for negative or no feedback. Interesting responses and I'm grateful for all of the perspectives.

    In the end, I chose to give him positive feedback but ding the description, shipping and communication in the secondary ratings as all of them were lacking. I left a comment that I received the coins and recommended less tape next time.

    He has not provided me a rating and likely will not. I will be happy to announce later that he provided me feedback, but I'm betting on the fact that the true pettiness was on his end.

    It was interesting to see that some people think it was acceptable to provide less than good service simply because something is cheap. I'd like to provide an analogy to those folks:

    You walk to a fast food restaurant to buy a burger. On your way in, a guy walking out hands you a coupon for a discount on the burger you were going to buy. Unexpected but you're happy to take it. You order the burger and provide the coupon for the discount and then wait for your burger. It comes in a box and when you open the box, you realize the burger is made wrong. The buns are both at the bottom, the cheese on the very top, and the burger is between the lettuce and tomatoes on top of the buns and under the sandwich. Sure, you received your "burger" but it wasn't what was advertised, nor was it what you ordered. Naturally, you inquire about the burger and why it was made that way. You are then provided with a hasty and rude response that they don't have time for you. They then hand you a comment card on your way out. Are you now going to write a positive rating because the burger was cheaper than you thought it would be? Doubtful.

    Thanks again for the responses.
     
  20. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    In theory, I agree.

    But my life overflows. I don't waste precious time on petty things.
     
  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Yes. That is wrong. The tape did not change the grade of the coin. I'm finished with the petty crap as well.
     
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