2017 San Francisco ase

In this case it absolutely is. There was no order limit, that's it.

 

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Like I told you in the other thread, they're also paid to investigate mismanagement and there maybe a crime there, which would be uncovered in an investigation. It's certainly not a waste of taxpayer money to force agencies to operate efficiently and honestly. It is a waste to allow the mint to undersell a product and it may be a crime to intentionally allow a few to monopolize an offering.

I get it, you have a stake in not wanting an investigation for whatever reason. The majority of collectors have a stake in seeing the mint operate in their interest, however it's not, for whatever reason, that an investigation would uncover.

 

At least you mention the problem.

 

Just stop. This is just a joke at this point. There was no crime and this temper tantrum stuff really needs to stop.

 

And, as I said, if everything is A-OK, then the requests go into the round file. I have absolutely no problem with that. That's how the system is supposed to work.

 

Of course who knows if an investigation would uncover that the reason there was no order limit was to ensure X big dealer would be able to buy Y coins ensuring they'd make a tidy profit. Perhaps in exchange said dealer would buy Z other offerings with sales that are expected to struggle. Things being looked into is how these things get uncovered and it's every Americans right to use the options granted to them to ensure things are being operated the proper way. Or to request that a look into certain agencies or practices be done as they see fit via filing complaints or contacting congressman, etc.

 

I'll add this since you guys are so worried about collectors. No one is doing more to chase off the new collectors then this kind of nonsense wanting investigations just because there were no order limits. You guys are making coin collectors look awful to anyone who casually sees this thread.

 

What can I say, people with "alternative" facts will never agree. Like I said before, you do your thing and I'll do mine.

 

Alternative facts again. No, it's flippers like you that monopolize an issue that scare off collectors.

 

Really? People who are seeking to ensure that every collector who wants a limited offering is able to get one via the original mint issued price in a fair ordering process. Instead of being locked out and having to be price gouged by third parties who dominated the total sales are the ones harming the hobby?

 

No, we're not making coin collectors look awful. HSN and the other price gougers are doing a fine enough job of doing that on their own.

As I said, if everything is A-OK, then toss out the complaints. Now, what could be so awful about that?

 

I missed out as I said, I'm just not crying about it hoping the federal government investigates because the mint didn't serve my personal need.

It was fair. It went on sale at the same time for everyone. Some got it some didn't that's life. Limited means limited, if everyone could get one it isn't limited

 

Baseball, haven't we gone through this over other issues? You like to keep going until you've have the last word. Well I'll tell you what, as long as you want to keep it up with alternative facts, I'll keep posting the link to the complaint process. Here it is again.

Here's a link to file an online complaint with the U.S. Treasury Department Inspector General. You can file anonymously and mint mismanagement is a legit complaint. If they get a bunch of these, they may do something about it.

https://www.treasury.gov/about/organizational-structure/ig/Pages/OigOnlineHotlineForm.aspx

Here's a sample complaint:

David Motl, Acting Principal Deputy Director
United States Mint

I am filing this complaint because of mismanagement (or worse) by David Motl, Acting Principal Deputy Director of the United States Mint. The U.S. Mint under Mr. Motl’s direction repeatedly offers limited edition coins in a manner that allows a few large business interests to monopolize the entire issue. The most recent abuse was an offering for the 2017 Congratulations Set on April 4, 2017 with no ordering limits. This issue sold out in less than two minutes and most collectors were shutout. It appears from aftermarkets sales, a few large dealers bought most of the sets. Please review Mr. Motl’s business practices in order to assure all U.S. Mint customers have a chance to purchase their offerings. Thank You.

 

This is completely false. Most products have very low order limits. Should an investigation be started into your false reports?

 

The inspector General, if he/she investigates will determine what is false or not. We should just agree to disagree. Or, do you really want to waste your time continuing this?

 

There is nothing to debate that the vast majority of their products have order limits and many of them very low. These are facts.

 

Except for the occasion windfall for big businesses that leave small collectors out. Here it is again.

Here's a link to file an online complaint with the U.S. Treasury Department Inspector General. You can file anonymously and mint mismanagement is a legit complaint. If they get a bunch of these, they may do something about it.

https://www.treasury.gov/about/organizational-structure/ig/Pages/OigOnlineHotlineForm.aspx

Here's a sample complaint:

David Motl, Acting Principal Deputy Director
United States Mint

I am filing this complaint because of mismanagement (or worse) by David Motl, Acting Principal Deputy Director of the United States Mint. The U.S. Mint under Mr. Motl’s direction repeatedly offers limited edition coins in a manner that allows a few large business interests to monopolize the entire issue. The most recent abuse was an offering for the 2017 Congratulations Set on April 4, 2017 with no ordering limits. This issue sold out in less than two minutes and most collectors were shutout. It appears from aftermarkets sales, a few large dealers bought most of the sets. Please review Mr. Motl’s business practices in order to assure all U.S. Mint customers have a chance to purchase their offerings. Thank You.

 

I'll ask again should your false reports be investigated? You have been informed that issues have overwhelmingly had limits and often very low limits yet continue to push to a false report

 

You do want to continue? Too many don't have limits or limits too high. Nothing false about this. Thanks for the opportunity to get this out there (more often than I'd like). I know, you figure I'll have to go eat at some point and you'll get the last word (temporarily). Here it is again.

Here's a link to file an online complaint with the U.S. Treasury Department Inspector General. You can file anonymously and mint mismanagement is a legit complaint. If they get a bunch of these, they may do something about it.

https://www.treasury.gov/about/organizational-structure/ig/Pages/OigOnlineHotlineForm.aspx

Here's a sample complaint:

David Motl, Acting Principal Deputy Director
United States Mint

I am filing this complaint because of mismanagement (or worse) by David Motl, Acting Principal Deputy Director of the United States Mint. The U.S. Mint under Mr. Motl’s direction repeatedly offers limited edition coins in a manner that allows a few large business interests to monopolize the entire issue. The most recent abuse was an offering for the 2017 Congratulations Set on April 4, 2017 with no ordering limits. This issue sold out in less than two minutes and most collectors were shutout. It appears from aftermarkets sales, a few large dealers bought most of the sets. Please review Mr. Motl’s business practices in order to assure all U.S. Mint customers have a chance to purchase their offerings. Thank You.

 

C'mom Baseball, get onboard, I've got close to 100 pm's telling me they've filed a complaint. I guess real collectors understand the issue and want to make a difference.