Morgan experiment--Generic MS Morgan.

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  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Coming soon: The Newly-Discovered Boiler Room Hoard!
     
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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Hmm. I thought that would have something to do with telephone marketers.
     
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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Oh, it will.
     
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah you said that. But, a bit earlier when Dave said this -

    You quoted him and responded with -

    And unless I'm mistaken when one says ditto it means you agree that acetone removes toning. That is the part I was referring to when I said you're gonna have to show me.

    Acetone does not remove toning - period, end of story.

    Yes, acetone may well remove some organic substances or films that have settled on a coin over time due to environmental exposure causing the toning to appear darker in color. Because that is something that is "on" the coin.

    But it will absolutely not remove the toning itself for toning is literally "in" the coin, not "on" it.
     
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  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Or even "at". :bag:
     
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  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Acetone removes a lot of things from the coin. We're debating the fact that a lot of what is considered toning actually isn't--it is an accumulation of gunk and other organic and inorganic material on a coin, and it can appear as toning. I rarely dip coins, but it is resolved for the purposes of this experiment, I will not use acetone, but I will use jewel luster, which will definitely remove toning. I will do half of one of the two coins--probably the upper half of the 1880s, unless somebody has a better idea. I am open to suggestions.
     
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  8. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Use jewel luster if you like. I wouldn't. I have my own thiourea based concoction, but I recognize not everybody wants to mess with mixing chemicals. I have never used any commercial dip to "dip" coins, but that's just me. I also never had one rejected for a straight grade - proof or regular strike.

    We former "darkroom rats" are pretty dangerous like that.
     
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  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    If I use Jewel Luster, it would be well- diluted, and an extremely quick dip. I am not a coin dipper, despite my many years of collecting Morgan's, as I like toning. So, dipping is fairly new to me. I tend just to avoid buying coins where I don't like the toning, as I have been a toner collector for over 25 years.
     
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  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    "Ditto" for his entire post was my error. Acetone does not remove toning; however IT CAN LIGHTEN ITS COLOR. We can argue what the color that lightened is but that does not change anything.
     
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  11. mynamespat

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    Personally, I hope Morgandude's coin ends up with awesome toning. Then everybody will start putting coins outside to tone and the world will turn into real life Super Mario Bros.
     
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  12. -jeffB

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    I want to illegally create multiple accounts so I can like this more.
     
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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    My bet is it will not. Even window sill toning takes experience! :D
     
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  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Or luck ;)
     
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  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Everyone needs a hobby...
     
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  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    OMG...I was rinsing a mercury dime in the bathroom sink a couple of years ago when it slipped and went down the drin. If it is still in the trap, I wonder what it looks like.
     
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  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Good use of Acetone.
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Plastic pipes...
     
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  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    A friend of mine used to twist Pvc into all weird shapes. And Glue a can to the bottom for good stability.
     
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  20. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    My 5oz Gettysburg is turning out nicely after a few months :)

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  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Hey fella, got a hockey stick for that puck?
     
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