Okay, is it just MY eyes? ("1928" Peace dollar)

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  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Just saw this on the 'bay:

    RARE (4) 1928-P PEACE SILVER DOLLARS KEY DATE COINS - LOW MINTAGE 360,649

    4-1928-P.jpg

    I've looked at a lot of Peace dollar auctions. I've seen a lot of 1923 dollars listed as 1928s. I've even bought one or two of them myself, back in the early days before I learned to distinguish the 8 from the deceptively-shaped 3.

    I'm ready to swear that the one on the upper right is 1923, and I have my doubts about the one on the lower left. But when I messaged the seller, he responded with "I beg to differ. It is a 1928."

    He does a fair amount of business in coins, and he's been at it for a number of years. At this point, I'm certainly not ready to accuse him of dishonesty -- but I am a little concerned about his eyesight, or my own.

    Thoughts?
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    The photos are not the best, but I'd say that's a 3.
     
  4. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    My eyes are either as good as yours or as bad. I have the same suspicion though the picture isn't sharp enough to make a final call. It doesn't help my confidence that the listing is "no returns."
     
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  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    2nd one is a 1923. The other 3 I think are 1928's.
     
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  6. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Top right is definitely a 23' imo also.
     
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  7. Histman

    Histman Too Many Coins, Not Enough Time!

    When I magnify the picture, the upper right is clearly a '28.
     
  8. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Disagreed, for the same reason.

    4-1928-Pdetail.jpg
     
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  9. redcent230

    redcent230 Well-Known Member

  10. johnno92

    johnno92 Member

    That top right one looks very much like a 1923. I would steer clear of a seller that just claims that it is something without providing better pictures. They are overpriced anyway. The bottom left one looks strange too, like it was polished. There should be additional pictures of both sides of each individual coin in a good eBay auction. The pictures must show detail like this one as an example.
    http://m.ebay.com/itm/1928-PEACE-SILVER-DOLLAR-/132144544321?hash=item1ec46dba41:g:eNAAAOSwXYtY3t5j&_trkparms=pageci%3A05846899-18ff-11e7-a2d2-74dbd18064e4%7Cparentrq%3A37a09d3615b0a861dff1f2b3fffdbea3%7Ciid%3A13
     
  11. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    My opinion is that if youre after a 28, buy one in a slab. Even if it is an S mint, just buy the slab. Personally, I have never had a problem differentiating the 3 from an 8, but if you do, buy one in a slab.
     
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  12. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Yes it's a 23 indeed :)
     
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  13. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Top right is a 23, no doubt about it,if you need one your much better off getting it already slabed. You can crack it out.
     
  14. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    Looks like a 23 in upper right corner.
     
  15. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Meaningless if item is not as described.
     
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  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yup. I did my part to notify the seller.

    With those images and that asking price, I don't think anybody will be falling for this auction, though.
     
  17. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    23...Your eyes are OK
     
  18. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Magnified or not, It sure looks like a '23 to me!

    I have driven miles to estate auctions that listed 1928 dollars just to find that they are 1923's.

    Unless I can identify the die characteristics of one of the four dies used that year, I pass on 1928's.

    It is too easy to remove the "S" and then clean the whole coin to cover the alteration over with new toning.

    1928 dollars were all released in my backyard from the Cleveland federal reserve and the Pittsburgh sub-Fed. It is not unusual for me to dump out an original pile of dollars (one hoard was kept in an old Hershey coco tin!) and find any number of them up to four, which was my record.
     
  19. thebeav

    thebeav Lifer

    It's quite obvious, even without magnification, the top right coin does not have the rim of a '28.
     
  20. Jimski

    Jimski Well-Known Member

    It looks to me that shadows from the lighting make the 8s look like 3s.
     
  21. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    I've got bad eyes but that top right is a '23.
     
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