Ancients => Photo-finish at the "wire"

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by stevex6, Apr 1, 2017.

  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yah, this 4th auction-win was another random, but awesome addition!!

    I fell in love with this coin when I took my first pass-through the auction, but because it is a bit outside my "usual extremely rigid collection-limits" I didn't put it on my first pass target-list ...

    ... but when it was still in play during the final moments, I hunkered-down, took careful aim and then pulled the coin-trigger!!

    => "BANG!!" .... $150 estimate ... but I scored it for a $95 hammer!!


    https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=332648

    Please welcome a super cute coin-addition and my first "wire money" example ...

    GERMANY, Bremen (Erbistum).
    Johann Friedrich. AR 4 Schilling

    1585-1634 AD
    Diameter: 18.5 mm
    Weight: 1.72 grams
    Obverse: Horseman right; cross before, crossed keys to upper right
    Reverse: Legend in five lines.
    Reference: KM 5
    Other: 4h … toned. In the style of the Russian ‘wire money’

    Germany Bremen Wire Money.jpg
     
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  3. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    Nice one Steve that's a pretty sweet coin.
     
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  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks Ajax ... yah, I love the obverse (cartoon horse-n-rider is a total winner)
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    "Please" try to think-up cool thread-additions ... I will accept all ideas!!

    German coins, horse-n-rider coins, wire money examples, underpants, etc ...
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Okay sure, I'll go first ...

    ;)

    Ummm, here is my only other German coin ...

    GERMAN STATES, Anhalt-Bernburg.
    Alexius Friedrich Christian, AR 1/3 Taler

    1796-1834
    1799 HS
    Diameter: 29 mm
    Weight: 7.03 grams of 83.3% Silver
    Obverse: Crowned-Bear advancing left on crenellated wall containing arched door below
    Reverse: Three-line legend and date; •H•S• (mint-master) below
    Reference: Mann 728a; Jaeger 41b, KM 70
    Other: sweet patina, VF

    1800 Century.jpg
     
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  7. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Wonderful coin Steve! I got nothing, but the FUN show is coming up!
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks Aidan ... oh, and good luck at the FUN show ... it sounds fun
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Congrats @stevex6 ! NICE clear example of wire money!

    I know nothing of it, as it is clearly out of my
    also.

    HOWEVER, I did the same sometime ago, I captured a Wire Money example "just to have one". My pic is horrible, cuz it is small, and I am not @dougsmit... :)

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    Russia Peter the Great AR Kopek 1682-1725 Wire Money Horse Rider - Great Tsar Peter 11.1mm 0.27g

    LOL, too funny. Odd in my collection search: I searched my JPEG database for "Peter" and the only other coin that came up besides this one, was the Bruttium Carthage Occupation coin with your name on it!
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ahaha ... "Peter" ... better than showing-up on the "Dick" search!!

    :rolleyes:

    Hey, thanks for posting your wire money example ...

    => I hope that you have a great Saturday, my coin-friend!!
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, I thought that was one and the same??? :D Have a wonderful day too! We finally got sunshine, so I may go see my Grandkids!
     
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  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Now that is a lovely little coin. I think I have something contemporary and somewhat similar.

    This one is actually blast-white and lustrous in hand.

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  13. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Love that 'cute' pony Steve!!! And a very cool horseman!!
     
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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks for the comments ... oh, and thanks for posting your cool example, TypeCoin (I appreciate your coin-effort)

    :rolleyes:
     
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  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh wow, that's awesome....i had no idea wire money was made outside of russia. it's a relatively large coin compared to the russian versions, was it actually made of cut pieces of "wire" like the russian coins? the toning is lovely as well.


    here's some of my russian wire money...


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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have a couple of those Russian Tsar Ivan IV "The Terrible" Dude...

    Wire Money:

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    RUSSIA Ivan IV The Terrible 1533-1584 AR Denga Moscow mint Horseman riding right brandishing sword - Inscription in lines G&K 59 Rare type

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    RUSSIA Ivan IV The Terrible 1533-1584 AR Kopek Wire money Novogorod mint 1535-1538 Horseman riding right brandishing sword - Inscription G&K 75
     
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  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    So now you're collecting My Little Pony coins - I see. ;)
     
  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @stevex6 's passion...
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  19. lehmansterms

    lehmansterms Many view intelligence as a hideous deformity

    It's from Lithuania - Sigismund ("II - of Luxembourg" - I think - as King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania) Although I hate to suggest it, this coin doesn't quite look right - the detail and relief seems too high for a coin of the era. Most likely struck with roller-dies, the technique produces nice smooth edges, but didn't typically impart much relief to thinner coins.
    I'm by no means any expert, however. Perhaps someone else here could weigh-in with an opinion on whether this looks "right" for the mid 16th century?
    I have a similar piece ND, ca. 1492-1506, for Alexander I with a lot less detail in the relief portions - although that one might be hand-struck, half a century earlier. Hopefully someone here knows more about this class of coin.
    I could photograph my piece if it's of interest to anyone.
     
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    @TypeCoin971793 , if there are questions, perhaps if it is not known in the Ancients forum, perhaps posting in the World Coins forum?
     
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  21. lehmansterms

    lehmansterms Many view intelligence as a hideous deformity

    I can add another photo of a piece of wire-money, however...[​IMG]
    Not Really "Ancient", but it is interesting to see how this
    AR "Wire-Money" Denga of Ivan "The Terrible", c. 1450 AD. 8mm x 10mm, 0.32g.
    was produced by methods nearly indistinguishable from those used by
    ancient civilizations millennia earlier in Eastern Europe.
     
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