!909 vdb matte proof cent. need help

I feel i may have found a 1909 vdb matte proof. Im asking if its worn wha other aspects to the coin can prove its a matte finish? does anyone have rim pics of one to show me? and compare a business strike rim to matte finish rim picture thanks

 

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There are known die markers, which, depending on the level of wear, can be used to positively identify it. We'll be happy to help if we could see the coin.

Given that it's circulated, why do you think it's a Proof?

 

Here is a Lincoln Matte Proof edge/rim. Very sharp 90 degree angle with flat edges. the business strike is chamfered, slight curvature on edg. jim

 

Tell me what you think

 

I will find my other 09 vdb and hold the rims together and see there is any difference but i feel it is more rounded than this one. i will let ya know about the rim shape

 

It's not a question of "more" rounded. Proofs have 90 degree edges.

 

Well, i meant the other vdb at home. i realise the matte proof is a right angle and that is what i have with the newest one i purchased. i will get better pics up if i can thanks.

 

This is an easy one. Its a vdb and there's no crescent gouge between the M and wheat ear so not a proof sorry to say.

 

Well with mu loupe i see a slight cresent and also the mark leaving his shoulder towards the r in liberty. but these pics cant see either of the marks when i get home try to get better pics

 

As much as we might seem skeptical, you have the best wishes of all of us.

 

Well post a good clear pic of the crescent gouge

 

The inside rims also need to be sharp 90º angles. Yours are not.

Check for a bunch of long die scratches in front of the nose.

 

i know nothing, but i found this photo i do find the discussions interesting. newly interested observer/numismatist
https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/1910-bsvsmp-rim-jpg-jpg.56182/

 

It's a circulation strike. No doubt about it.

You'll know when you see an MPL, It will be unlike any Lincoln wheat you have ever seen.

 

It is a "proof teaser" VDB. I've got at least 2 of those. You shouldn't stop looking though! On yours, the rims are a bit too rounded. Also the left side of the obverse has a breakdown on the inside of the rim where it should have a straight 90 degree angle. On a genuine proof, you'd never see that type of inconsistency on the inner rim.