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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by ValiantKnight, Mar 29, 2017.

  1. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I have very early medieval (couple of centuries after 476 AD) pretty well represented in my collection, but my collection of European medieval coins after 1000 is practically non-existent. It wasn't much to look even before I sold off my Antioch denier and my two Spanish denaros, so things only got worse for this part of my collection. So recently, I got the itch to add another medieval coin to my collection, so I settled on this AR penny of Edward I Longshanks of England. Its not a problem-free and perfect example but its nicely-detailed and good enough for me.

    The quote of him above (the thread title; from the scene when he was justifying his friendly fire against his own troops) and the fact his nickname is "Longshanks" (can't get much cooler than that) are the only things I remember about him from Braveheart. Oh, and that he also was a massive certain body orifice (but I realize that might have been played up for the movie).

    Got a bit of stuff on my plate right now so I won't go into the history myself but I found a webpage that gives a good biography of Edward (not too long of a read like Wiki and not too short): http://www.englishmonarchs.co.uk/plantagenet_5.htm

    Edward I, Kingdom of England

    AR penny
    Obv: EDW R ANGL DNS HYB, crowned and draped facing bust, legend around bust
    Rev: CIVI-TAS LIN-COL, long cross, tri-pellets in angles, legend around cross
    Mint: Lincoln
    Date: 1280-1281
    Ref: SCBI 39 (North), 168; North 1022; SCBC 1393

    (not in hand yet so these are from the seller; black background added by me though)
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    edwardipicture.jpg

    edwardipicture2.jpg

    England and territories in 1300:

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    Please post anything relevant or just a comment! And thanks for looking!
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2017
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  3. hoth2

    hoth2 Well-Known Member

    The first image after the coin looks a lot like Prince Phillip's boyfriend in Braveheart.

    Longshanks was the first medieval coin I bought, because Braveheart is the best movie of all the movies.
     
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  4. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Very nice - I have one of these!

    Kingdom of England
    England, Lincoln
    Edward I Plantagenet r. AD 1272- 1307
    AR penny 18 mm x 1.35 g, Lincoln, long cross type, class 3d.
    Obverse: +EDW R' ANGL' DNS HYB. Crowned bust facing.
    Reverse: CIVI/ TAS/ LIN/ COL separated by long cross, three pellets in each angle. Reference: North 1019; S 1390/1427. Very Fine, nice strike, toned.
    Provenance: ex. David L Tranbarger; ex Steven Damron, his tag included; ex Col. Ted Schmidt (tag included, purchased Al Boulanger, FPL 30, lot 190); ex. B. Yarbrough.

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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I see yours as a very nice coin with great strike. I only have one to show and it suffers badly from ghosting of the cross running through the portrait. This is a problem with thin coins. I see now that I am showing the reverse upside down compared to yours and a quarter turn off from A-noob's. Oops!
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Great AR penny and cool posts!! Terrific portraits too!!

    I Love the historical context of all those coins!!

    But I'd be living in a refrigerator box if I indulged every itch I have for every coin that appeals to me. LOL
     
  7. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    AMEN
     
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  8. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i have an edward!

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  9. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Very nice coins all. He is definitely on my list!
     
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  10. alde

    alde Always Learning

    How about an Irish one minted in Waterford?

    Edward I AR Penny, Waterford mint 1276-1302. S-6254
    Obv. Edward facing in triangle with the legend EDW.R/ANGL'D/NShYB
    Rev. Long Cross with pellets in field and the legend CIVI TAS WATE RFOR
    Edward I Irish Penny S 6254.jpg
     
  11. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Nice Valient!

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    England
    Edward I, r. 1272-1307 (1279-1307)
    London Mint, AR New Coinage Penny, 20.79mm x 1.4 grams
    Obv.: .✚ ºEDW R' ANGL DNS HyB. Bust facing, full drapery, crown with small nick between dexter jewel and side fleur
    Rev.: ºCIVI | TAS | LON | DON. Long cross quartering outer legends with three pellets in each quarter
    Ref.: North 1026, SCBC 1397, De Witt 3243
     
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  12. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Awesome stuff guys! From briefly reading Wiki he doesn't seem to have been that bad of a guy. Can anyone knowledgeable (such as @FitzNigel , perhaps) help enlighten me further on how he was like and how he ruled? And also hopefully more on the English coins of this time? (I know I can simply look this stuff up but I'd rather go to my coin friends here first and plus to stimulate some discussion)
     
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  13. alde

    alde Always Learning

    I'm pretty sure he's still disliked by the Scots. Can say I blame them.
     
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  14. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    You know you've made it in life when people still hate you even after 700 years lol :D
     
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  15. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know much about Edward I (I'm embarrassed to say this, as my doctoral supervisor was/is probably the world's expert on him). I would say ignore most everything in Braveheart - good film, but not very historically accurate. Edward would fight against the Scotts to subjugate them. While he didn't succeed against them, he would succeed against the Welsh through a system of building the most advanced castles of the age.

    The new coinage of Edward's reign would have a design that would be copied by his successors, to the point where the coins of Edward II and III are difficult to distinguish from the Ist. This design would be copied quite frequently in Europe since the English sterling had such a good reputation for its purity of silver. You can really see the resemblance in Spanish coins, and the Low Countries essentially created counterfeits.
     
  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Congrats, Jango ... that's a very sharp lookin' OP-addition
     
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  17. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Good to know, thank you. I know I've seen similar looking Spanish coins with the king's bust facing, but I wonder if anyone here has one of those counterfeits.

    Anyone else have any (even remotely) relevant coins to share?
     
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  18. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Congratulations on your first post-1000 AD English medieval coin!

    May it be the first of many!

    I have quite a few medieval english coins that I have bought here and there over the
    years, but unfortunately no pictures of them that I can share
    (they all look so much alike!).
    To my shame, I am not even sure which kings I have.

    One which I have well documented, however, is this penny of Richard I (The Lionhearted).
    I posted this one a few years ago:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/richard-i-the-lionhearted-coeur-de-lion.106564/

    An interesting coin from a colorful king in English history.

    "..he was a bad son, a bad husband and a bad king, but a gallant and splendid soldier"

    Richard I, the Lionhearted, Coeur de Lion.


    Richard I Lionheart- Penny-Obv1 - 1.jpg Richard I Lionheart- Penny-Rev1 - 1.jpg
     
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  19. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Richard I and also William the Conquerer are two rulers I want to get one day. Very nice!
     
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  20. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    No camera batteries (yet again), so these are phone photos. And it was looking pretty good in the palm of my hand so I decided to forgo my usual black background.

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  21. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Very nice coin, ValiantKnight!
    A well struck example.
     
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